ROOTSOFT.89B contains a digest of genealogical software reviews that have appeared in the ROOTS-L news list during the second half of 1989. ROOTS-L contains articles copied from the soc.roots news group. ROOTS-L articles are archived on the North Dakota Higher Education Network (HECN) host, vm1.nodak.edu, and may be obtained via anonymous ftp from the ROOTS-L.LOG* files of the LISTARCH directory. Vic Abell, abe@mace.cc.purdue.edu, July 5, 1990 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 89 15:14:31 CDT Reply-To: tswift@well.UUCP Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Comments: Resent-From: Marty Hoag Comments: Originally-From: tswift@well.UUCP (Theodore John Swift) From: Marty Hoag Subject: Re: Printing trees with PAF? From soc.roots kleinow@caen.engin.umich.edu (Leonard Kleinow) writes: >I've been thinking about [printing big trees] for a bit too, and while I >think I could handle the programming part, I have a few questions for the >group: >Would you prefer it to read a GEDCOM file, or do it the infinitely >faster, though intensly machine-specific, way of reading the PAF file >directly? I've hacked out most of the file structure. Anyone have the >"real" version? I would *prefer* it to be in PAF's Family Records program itself, but a separate utility which reads either GEDCOM or PAF format would be great; being able to read GEDCOM from other platforms onto my Mac would be nice only in that I would become very popular with people with those platforms :-). From a "commercial" standpoint, reading GEDCOM would reach a wider "market" with less software development effort. As for copies of the GEDCOM spec and PAF file formats, I sent off to Ancestrial File Operations Family history Dept. LDS Church, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 1-801-240-2584 The phone number is for "Customer Support", but I think it's the one I used to order the GEDCOM specs. For $5.00, a la Visa card, they sent me * PAF 2.1 Family Records Data Structure Description, 23 June 1988, 12 p. * GEDCOM release 3.0, 9 Oct 1987, 131 pages (!) * PAF GEDCOM Specifications, 8 June 1988, 36 pages A photocopying bargain if there ever was one, to say nothing of it being a bonanza of useful information. >What would be on your wish list? I'd prefer a program that just saved an >arbitrarily large document in Macdraw format, then the user could use their >own judgement to spruce it up. That's kinda what I've been thinking of. There are a few details to consider regarding "sprucing it up", such as how to deal with multiple marriages, etc. I would like the person's names centered vertically, with birth and death years centered below. A dialog box would allow the user to set the name and date font and size (e.g., 12 point Helvetica name, 9 point Times date), as well as relative spacings of generations, line styles, etc. If the utility ran across a relationship it couldn't resolve, it should go ahead and generate the [MacDraw] file, but somehow flag parts that need attention, such as the multiple marriage problem (with bold text, maybe?). That's about all the individual data I've been putting in my hand-MacDrawn charts, though I also add a residence or a profession if it's known and noteable. I'm pleasantly amazed at how easily you toss off the phrase "arbitrarily large document in Macdraw format"; I'm not more than a dilletante programmer, so it doesn't strike me as trivially easy to generate. But that's the idea I've been kicking around. There seem to be a number of us kicking this idea around. These include: pettit@adobe.COM (Teri Pettit) apple!goofy.apple.com!mdtaylor holly@adobe.COM (Holly Cochran) tswift@well (Ted Swift) It's exciting to think that this idea might be realized in my own lifetime :-). Doing it manually in MacDraw is certainly better than pen and ink, but having a utility do [most of] it would be a similar leap forward. -- Ted Swift "Mortui vivos docent" {hplabs,lll-crg/lcc, pacbell} The dead teach the living. !well!tswift ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 89 07:04:00 CDT Reply-To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List From: CFWPM@ECNCDC Subject: RE: Family Edge It is a package that was written by Carl York in New York. It comes in two versions; a "professional" version and a shareware version. It features lots of neat stuff like pop-up windows, key stroke saving for repetative data entry, and many, many other features. I use the shareware version but will be ordering the Professional version shortly. Shareware is available from most active NGS echo Fido boards and the professional version from Carl York, 150 east 30th St. #2E New York, NY 10016 Last I heard the shareware version was $10 and the Professional ver $120. Take care, I got to Edge out of here now.--==**#**==-- Bill ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 89 12:18:40 CDT Reply-To: hcochran@adobe.com Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Comments: Resent-From: Marty Hoag Comments: Originally-From: hcochran@adobe.com (Holly Wanless Cochran) From: Marty Hoag Subject: Re: PAF & family trees From soc.roots I'm posting the following for David Magier, who replied to my request for more details about how he uses MORE to build trees from outline format. Outline format can be produced by doing a descendants chart in PAF and then running a few editor macros to eliminate the extraneous data like RINs. You'd also have to arrange the spouses as shown here, but that could also be easily done with an editor like Word. I just finished making a 9-page tree from a descendants chart, using only Word, since I don't have MORE. It took 4 days to do and was rather painful, but now that I know what I'm doing, I could probably do it faster. But it would sure be nicer to have software do it for me! Thanks, David! --Holly -------------------------------------------- Holly, sorry for the delay in answering. Yes, the 'outline' format for PAF descendant charts can be plugged into MORE. The program turns them into trees (in the style of organizational charts), which are actually very elegant. Each node on the tree is a box. You can control the size of the box (length and width separately), the shape of the box (rectangle, rounded rectangle, or circle), the horizontal offset between boxes in the tree as a whole, and the vertical offset between boxes. You can also specify the thickness of the box borders, and can have 'shadow effect' shading to give a sort of 3D effect (the boxes appear to be floating slightly above the page). The program handles very large trees with no problems at all. Limitations: a) no, you cannot move things around or otherwise edit the output trees, except by re-organizing the outline structure itself (ie. who begat whom). b) a family is represented by one box with offspring boxes below it (connected by right-angle, rounded-angle, or diagonal lines to the parent box). The problem comes if you want to represent both parents of the family. The way I have found to do this is to put both parents into one box (by placing them on the same line in the outline structure). Thus, a mini-family tree might be generated from an outline like this: Roger SMITH (1902) [w.Sheila Graham) Thomas SMITH (1928) [w.Alice Cox) Betty SMITH (1948) [h.Fred Jones) Jane JONES (1970) Robert JONES (1973) Frank Smith (1950) Cynthia SMITH (1930) [h.Everett Horn) Gail HORN (1952) Joseph SMITH . . . So each Descendant of Roger Smith (with his or her spouse) will appear in a single box, with their offspring branching down from that box. It works pretty nicely, except in the case of multiple marriages. What I do then is to have an artificial layer (generation) of boxes which represent each of the marriages: Bob JONES (1900) [w1.Betsy Wake, w2.Sarah Banks] {Bob JONES' children by Betsy Wake} Beth JONES (1922) [h.Paul SOUTH] Jim SOUTH David SOUTH Brian JONES (1925) [w.Ann PIKE] Keith JONES Raymond JONES {Bob JONES' children by Sarah Banks} Amy JONES (1932) [h.Donald WOLF] Michael WOLF Evan JONES (1934) [w.Karen SCOTT] William JONES (1962) . . . The problem with this is that children of such multiple marriages will appear in the tree one level lower (i.e. as if one generation later) than their first cousins. That is, by inserting an artifical generation layer of boxes to label the multiple marriages, you puch all the descendants of those marriages DOWN one level, raltive to the offspring of, say, Bob Jones' brothers and sisters, who may have only had one marriage. Anyway, despite the limitations, this approach works best for me for now, until something nicer and more direct (perhaps within an update of PAF) comes along. Keep in touch. David Magier magier@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Oct 89 17:36:39 EDT Reply-To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List From: Network Planning Subject: A summary of Computer Genealogy information August 1989 The following information should be of assistance especially to those of you just starting out. It is a compilation of "stuff", which I basically have in my library. There is no intent to include or exclude any particular item. In fact, many of the items, especially the newsletters, are really the places to watch for current and more complete information. =============================================================================== Subject:A list of Genealogical Computing Resources: August 1989 National Genealogical Society Newsletter: NGS/CIG Digest (bimonthy) Computer Interest Group NGS/CIG Dues $5.00/year 4527 Seventeenth Street North NGS Dues: $30.00/year Arlington, VA 22207-2363 Membership in the NGS is required Genealogical Computing Association of Pennsylvania (GENCAP) Newsletter: GENCAP Newsletter c/o MICRODOC Dues $10.00/year 815 Carpenter Lane Philadelphia, PA 19119 The Genealogical Computer PIONEER Publication: PIONEER Posey International "Annual Membersip" $30.00 PO Box 338 6 issues per year Orem, UT. 84057 801/377-5504 Flooded out of business 9/89. Ancestry Research Club Newsletter: Ancestry PO Box 476 Bimonthly - $12.00 Salt Lake City, UT 84110 Dues - $24.95 includes newsletter 800/531-1790 Genealogical Computing Journal, Quarterly $25 /year PO Box 476 $8.00 discount for Salt Lake City, UT 84110 Ancestry Res. Club members [Publishes a "complete" CIG directory in J/F/M issue and a "complete" directory of Computerized Genealogical Databases in A/M/J issue.] National Genealogy Conference (see separate posting) A "Fido system" conference NGS/CIG BBS 703/528-2612 (109/302) GEnie See end of NGS/NGC listing Genealogy Roundtable CompuServe See end of NGS/NGC listing Genealogy Forum =============================================================================== A new entity is "Genformation Software Club". From their ad in J/A/S issue of "Genealogical Computing": Free software catalog > IBM shareware and public domain programs for genealogists > Family histories and genealogy sources on computer diskettes > GEDCOM files, Ahnentafels, Tiny Tafels and more for IBM, Apple, Macintosh and other popular formats Under $10/disk Find out how to receive major discounts when you contribute your own family data! Write to GENFORMATION Dept CG389 Box 161126 San Diego, CA 92116 . . . The June issue of the GENCAP Newsletter has the following "selected from a flyer so that you may decide if it is of interest to you. San Diego, CA - The Genformation Software Club is now forming to promote the worldwide exchange of genealgical data on computer diskettes. Membership is open to all those who use - or plan to use - microcomputers in their family history research and record keeping. "Now that genealgical software programs are actively supporting the GEDCOM standard, many more computing genealogists are finally able to exchange data diskettes - even with those who don't use the same type of software." said Cindy Conser, Genformation President. "There is an increasing need for a central 'bank' where family historians can deposit their GEDCOM files and withdraw files that were compiled by possible cousins," Ms. Conser said. "I believe the Genformation Software Club will fill that need". HOW IT WORKS Each diskette sent to Genformation is given a number. Then names and places contained in the file are added to master index files. These index files are then distribued as a quarterly Catalog-on-Disk to all Genformation Software Club Members. In addition to the quarterly catalog indexes on diskette, a cumulative index will be kept so members can query Genformation directly concerning possible matches. A report is sent to the member describing which, if any, diskette(s) contain the requested name(s). The database query service is included as part of the membership benefits. To become a member of the Genformation Software Club, applicants should send a copy of their genealogical data diskette(s), along with their name, address, a brief description of the diskette(s), information regarding the computer format they require, and $15 to Genformation. For a free catalog describing these diskettes, or for more information about Genformation Software Club, write to Genformation, P.O. Box 161126 San Diego, CA 92116 =============================================================================== Subject: Some Genealogical Software August 1989 PAF - Personal Ancestral File The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Family History Department Ancestral File Operations Unit, 2WW 50 East North Temple Street Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 801/240-2584 =============================================================================== Subject: Basic Genealogical Research, a number of texts - August 1989 There are a number of books floating around dealing with getting started in Genealogical Research, with and without computer. "Tracing Your Roots By Computer" by Joanna D. Posey, who also publishes the "Genealogical Computer Pioneer" - a bimonthly newsletter. She also is currently doing Satellite radio broadcasts via KSTARR - often available from your local LDS Church library on tape. The LDS Church normally has the downlinks and provides "group listening" for church members. SPACENET 1, Channel 17, 6.8 MHZ covers North America) (ISBN 0-948348-23-3, My copy is 1986, but I think it has been revised and reprinted since then.) (Posey International, PO Box 338 Orem, Utah, 84057). [ 1989 update information: "Tracing Your Roots By Computer" is now a series of books: "Word Processing Your Family Stories" $ 6.00 "Family Heritage Software Reviews" $16.95 "Computerized Maps, Photos, and Historical Timelines" $12.00 "Family Heritage Telecommunication Projects" $ 8.00 "LDS Family History Computer Projects" $ 8.00 "Selecting Computers and Software for Genealogy" $ 6.00 "Computerizing A Complete Family History" $25.00 "Desktop Publishing Guidelines for Family History" $ 8.00 Judging by the titles, the original single volume has been broken up into several smaller volumes and updated with information published as articles in the "Pioneer". I believe this to be the case, primarily because the latest issue of the "Pioneer" lists only the individual titles, and not the single volume. ] "Computer Genealogy - a Guide to Research through High Technology". by Paul Andereck and Richard Pence - Published by Ancestry, Inc., home of the quarterly publication "Genealogical Computing" and the Ancestry Research Club. (ISBN 0-916489-02-7, 1985) (softbound, 5 1/2 x 8 1/2, 280 pages) (Ancestry, Inc., PO Box 476 Salt Lake City, Utah 84110) ($12.95 - $10 to Ancestry Research Club members.) I have found both books to be interesting, especially for someone just getting started in either computers or genealogy or both. However, both texts are basic and quickly outgrown. While long, their content is very "hand-holding, tutorial, example"ish - how to use this program or that form. The important thing is that both give you a good solid footing in the realm of "professional" genealogical research. They talk about documentation, record keeping forms, sources for information, etc. Whether you want them for your library is mostly a question of $$. They are both books that you should at least take the time to read through. (both are softcovers at text book prices.) Other books I haven't read: "Ancestry's Guide to Research: Case studies in American Genealogy" by Johni Cerny and Arlene Eakle Published by Ancestry, Inc. (ISBN 0-916489-01-9) (softbound, 5 1/2 x 8 1/2, 364 pages) (Ancestry, Inc., PO Box 476 Salt Lake City, Utah 84110) ($10.95 - $8 to Ancestry Research Club members.) [The Guide to Research is available as a membership premium on joining the Research Club.] "The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy" By Arlene Eakle and Johni Cerny Published by Ancestry, Inc. (ISBN 0-916489-00-0) (hardbound 8 1/2 x 11, 786 pages) (Ancestry, Inc., PO Box 476 Salt Lake City, Utah 84110) ($39.95 - $32.00 to Ancestry Research Club members.) "The Library: A guide to the LDS Family History Library" Edited by Johni Cerny and WEndy Elliott Published by Ancestry, Inc. (ISBN 0-916489-21-3) (hardbound, 8 1/2 x 11, 763 pages) (Ancestry, Inc., PO Box 476 Salt Lake City, Utah 84110) ($39.95 - $33.95 to Ancestry Research Club members.) "The Archives: A guide to the National Archives Field Branches" By Loretto Dennis Szucs and Sandra Hargreaves Luebking Published by Ancestry, Inc. (ISBN 0-916489-23-X) (hardbound, 8 1/2 x 11, 340 pages) (Ancestry, Inc., PO Box 476 Salt Lake City, Utah 84110) ($35.95 - $30.50 to Ancestry Research Club members.) From the US Government General Printing Office: These are pamphlets available from: Consumer Information Center Pueblo, Colorado 81009 "Using Records in the National Archives for Genealogical Research" Order number 448T $ .50 (25pp 1986) Describes historical materials such as census, land, naturalization, and military records, and how you can use them. (National Archives and Records Administration General Information Leaflet Number 5) (USGPO: 1988 216-726-80611) "Family Folklore": Interviewing Guide and Questionnaire Order number 164 T $1.00 (7 pp 1979) How to record family stories and tradition for genealogical research. (Folklife Program, Office of American and Folklife Studies, Smithsonian Institution) (USGPO: 1986-0-496-398) [I heartily recommend this little volume.] [It indicates that a 100 page book "Family Folklore", a collection and discussion of family stories, expressions, traditions, photographs, and memorabilia, is available by writing to: Folklife Programs L'Enfant 2100 Smithsonian Instituion Washington, DC 20560. The cost is $3.00. Please make check payable to the Smithsonian Institution.] "Where to write for Vital Records: Births, Deaths, Marriages, and Divorces" Order Number 170T $ 1.50 (22pp 1987) How to obtain certified copies of birth, death, marriage and divorce certificates. (U.S.Department of Health and Human Services.) (DHHS publication number (PHS) 87-1142) "Your Right to Federal Records" Order number 449T $ .50 (18pp 1984) How to use the Freedom of Information Act and Privacy Act to obtain records from the federal government. (Department of Justice and US. General Services Administration) =============================================================================== Subject: Roots-L archives info August 1989 You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF ROOTS-L" command to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1. Please note that this command must NOT be sent to the list address (ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1) but to the LISTSERV address (LISTSERV@NDSUVM1). The amount of acknowledgment you wish to receive from this list upon completion of a mailing operation can be changed by means of a "SET ROOTS-L option" command, where "option" may be either "ACK" (mail acknowledgment), "MSGACK" (interactive messages only) or "NOACK". More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the "General Introduction guide", which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO GENINTRO" command to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1. ............................. Just a reminder that the items from ROOTS-L are kept in "notebooks" at NDSUVM1 (VM1.NoDak.EDU). There are several ways you can access these: 1. Via the LISTSERV Database server. Just send mail to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 (or LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.EDU) with the following statements (for example) in the TEXT or BODY of the mail: (NOTE: Mail to LISTSERV, NOT roots-L!) Mail to LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.EDU (or LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.Bitnet): //DBlook JOB Echo=No Database Search DD=Rules //Rules DD * Select tyler in ROOTS-L index The "index" command gives you a list of hits. You can then resubmit this job with added Print nnnn commands (ie. Print 0246) or even PRINT ALL (but that might be a bit much...). The Database feature is very powerful but takes a bit of getting used to. For more information send LISTSERV the command INFO DATABASE in the TEXT or BODY of mail (NOT in the subject). 2. You can request a list of the monthly notebooks with the INDEX ROOTS-L command. Just send it in the text of a message to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1 (or LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.EDU). 3. Anonymous FTP to VM1.NoDak.EDU and CD LISTARCH then enter DIR ROOTS-L* to see the various archive files (they are monthly). =============================================================================== Library of Congress 1st St. & Independence Ave., SE Washington, DC Local History and Genealogy Reading Room 202-287-5537 Call them for the mailing address. They have a computerized card catalogue with which you can search on any name for published genealogies. Library of Congress Manuscript Division 101 Independence Avenue, S.E. Washington, D.C. 20540 202: 287-5383 202: 287-5387 =============================================================================== William H. Magill Manager, PENNnet Operations Planning Data Communications and Computing Services (DCCS) University of Pennsylvania Internet: magill@dccs.upenn.edu magill@eniac.seas.upenn.edu magill@upenn.edu ========================================================================= Newsgroups: soc.roots Subject: Re: From Roots-L: Software for Apple II's Date: 16 Oct 89 19:41:07 GMT Reply-To: hcochran@adobe.COM (Holly Wanless Cochran) Sender: news@adobe.COM PAF (Personal Ancestral File) from the LDS Church runs on the Apple II and IIE. It does not run on the IIQS with ProDos. For info or ordering, call 801/240-2504 and ask for extension 5274. It costs $35. --Holly ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Oct 89 17:15:07 CDT Reply-To: Marty Hoag Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Comments: Resent-From: Marty Hoag From: Marty Hoag I think this would be of interest to other Roots-L readers although it was apparently sent directly to me. I also posted it to soc.roots. Marty From: pacbell!att!cbnewsc!alicej%ames.UUCP@ucsd.edu Received: by ames.arc.nasa.gov (5.61/1.2); Mon, 16 Oct 89 15:05:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 89 15:05:09 -0700 Message-Id: <8910162205.AA25209@ames.arc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: From Roots-L: Re: Software for Apple II's Apparently-To: ucsd!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!p suvm!cunyvm!ndsuvm1.bitnet!nu021172 ACC00JHC@UNCCVM.BITNET (Jim Canter): > ------------ From the ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.Bitnet Mailing List ------------- > > I too would be interested in software that runs on an Apple II system. > > Thanks/jhc > > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ > | James H Canter | Dir of Student Info Systems | > | acc00jhc@unccvm | Univ of North Carolina at Charlotte | > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ I have an Apple II-Plus and I use Family Roots, which is from Quinsept in Massachusetts. It costs almost $200, but it's worth it to me, because it is extremely flexible. It was originally developed on an Apple II, but now they support several other types of PCs. If you are interested, let me know and I'll send you their address and phone (I have them at home). Alice J. Ramsay AT&T Bell Laboratories ..!att!ihlpm!alicej (312) 953-1013 590 S. Fairfield Ave Lombard, IL 60148-2828 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 89 20:06:06 CST Reply-To: eickmeye@girtab.usc.edu Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Comments: Resent-From: Roots-L List Operations Comments: Originally-From: eickmeye@girtab.usc.edu (Biff Henderson) From: Roots-L List Operations Subject: New PAF Software Release The following article is from the Church News [The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints], November 18, 1989, page 5. Upgraded software soon available for home-computer genealogy By R. Scott Lloyd Church News staff writer Refinements to the Personal Ancestral File -- making it easier for home computer owners to store, manage and share their genealogical information -- have been announced by the Church Family History Department. The Personal Ancestral File is a Church-originated software program for storing family group records, pedigree charts and other genealogical information in home computers. Past refinements have allowed users to share data by telephone and to submit information on computer disk to the Family History Department for temple ordinance work and inclusion in the Ancestral File, a large genealogical data base. Release 2.2 of the Personal Ancestral File -- which has the most recent refinements -- will be available in mid-December, according to Lance Jacob, team leader in the Ancestral File Operations Unit of the Family History Department. The new release supersedes and replaces Release 2.1 and all previous MS-DOS releases of the Personal Ancestral File. (See July 16, 1988, Church News for information about Release 2.1.) Jacob said Release 2.2 has the features of the previous versions plus these refinements among others: * Duplicate entries of the same individual can be merged into a single entry. * Information can be entered into the computer as a pedigree chart is being searched. Previously, information could only be entered into the computer from the main menu portion of the program. * The program has been updated to comply with recent changes made in the standards to qualify names for temple ordinances. * A key component of the software package has been the Genealogical Information Exchange program, which allows a user to share information with another user via computer disk. In the past it was necessary to copy all of the information that was copied from another user's data base into one's own data base. Now, it is possible to copy selected portions of the other user's information, avoiding records one may not want. Jacob said computer owners who already have previous versions of the Personal Ancestral File will be able to buy upgrade packages incorporating the new refinements. Registered users will receive a letter giving information on how to order the upgrade package. For now, Release 2.2 is only available in a version for MS-DOS (IBM-compatible) computers. However Release 2.1 was made available for Macintosh computers last November and will still be available, Jacob said. The Personal Ancestral File continues to grow in popularity, Jacob said, estimating that more than 100,000 have been sold so far. Based on user registrations, he said that roughly half of the owners are not Church members. The price of Release 2.2 will be $35, the same as previous releases. Inquiries may be addressed to Ancestral File Operations, 50 E. North Temple, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150. The telephone number is (801) 240-2584. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 89 13:37:58 EDT Reply-To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List From: Dick Dean 592-1412 I am writing to request assistance from list readers in two areas. First, I am looking for the titles of periodicals currently published for genealogists. Second, once upon a time there existed a Dean Society. I have read past minutes of it at the Lost Colony Museum in Tauton, Mass. Does anyone know if it or a similar society of Dean's exists today? Richard Dean Athens, OH 45701 HSSDEAN@OUACCVMB ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 26 Dec 89 11:49:31 CST Reply-To: jp@frog.UUCP Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Comments: Resent-From: Roots-L List Operations Comments: Originally-From: jp@frog.UUCP (John Pimentel) From: Roots-L List Operations Subject: Re: Genealogy-software info wanted In article <3241ROOTS-OP@NDSUVM1> RCLEON@HEITUE5.BITNET (Leon Oninckx) writes: >------------ From the ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.Bitnet Mailing List ------------- > >I'm also searching for some sort of overview of the current available >genealogy programs and its versionnumbers (PD/Shareware/commercial). I >guess that such things have been posted already a couple of times, but >since I'm new to this list I would like to ask if someone could please >post it again. I keep this around for situations just like this: Available from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints', Distribution Center in SLC Utah are the following software programs: (Notes: 1.- The programs are sold to members and the general public at COST of MATERIAL. 2.- The price on all packages is $35.00 and there is no extra charge for shipping and handling. 3.- The software's user manual is rather lengthy, but from what I am told "it's worth it". 4.- If you are not sure if the package listed will fit your computer then call Customer Service during hours listed. The address and instructions for order are: Distribution Center (make checks payable to Distribution Center) 1999 West 1700 South SLC, Utah 84104 Hrs. 9AM to 5PM Mon. thru Fri. MT Phone Orders - 1 (800) 537-5950 major charge cards accepted M/C & VISA Customer Service - 1 (800) 537-5951 Packages available: (Modifications to PAF included in new release at 2.2.) IBM and compatibles: MS-DOS 512KB Monochrome 2.0 or Higher 5 1/4" PBGS1642 3 1/2" PBGS1802 (According to Justin Masters in his posting in this group, the information he rec'd indicates that the modification are already included in the latest release - now at 2.1) Macintosh 512,512E,Plus,SE2 with Monitor PBGS161A Apple II PBGS1187 > >Thanks, Your welcome. >-Leon --- Take care and have a good day. John. STANDARD DISCLAIMER APPLIES. UUCP: mit-eddie!frog!jp ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 28 Dec 89 10:01:00 EET Reply-To: ROOTS-L Genealogy List Sender: ROOTS-L Genealogy List From: LKORHONEN@FINFUN.BITNET Subject: ATARI ST software Reply to Guy Ridley.. Genealogical Computing journal Vol. 9 number 2 tells that there is genealogical software available for Atari ST. IT'S ALL RELATIVE version 1.04 from Greg Kopchek, 2233 Keeven Lane, Florissant, MO 63031. The other major genealogical program for the Atari is GENERATION GAP PLUS, from Flying Pigs Software (P.O. Box 688, St. George, UT 84771. Liisa Korhonen The Helsinki Scholl of Economics and Business Adm. Runeberginkatu 14-16 00100 Helsinki Finland LKORHONEN@CSC.FI