From roots-in@bw-10.rootsweb.com Fri Jun 5 09:07:11 1998 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA08698; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bw-10.rootsweb.com (roots-in@bw-10.rootsweb.com [208.1.40.122]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA31435 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:07:08 -0700 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by bw-10.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26297 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 07:52:22 -0700 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by bw-10.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14636 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 00:26:50 -0700 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA20353 for roots-in@bw-10.rootsweb.com; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Envelope-From: Sandra.Tracy@fao.org Fri Jun 5 01:41:36 1998 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA20347 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faov2b.fao.org (faov2b.fao.org [193.43.36.4]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA11247 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 1998 01:41:28 -0700 Received: from faov01.fao.org (faov01.fao.org) by faov02.fao.org (PMDF V5.0-8 #14636) id <01IXVHPNLKCG8Y56ZZ@faov02.fao.org> for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:41:27 +0200 Received: from ffexch1.fao.org (ffexch1.fao.org) by faov01.fao.org (PMDF V5.0-7 #3703) id <01IXVHOOMCK0000R7B@faov01.fao.org> for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:40:35 +0200 Received: by FFEXCH1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:40:13 +0200 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:40:09 +0200 From: "Tracy, Sandra (FIDI)" Subject: RE: LATVIA To: "'ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com'" Message-id: <01IXVHPR7RUE8Y56ZZ@faov02.fao.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: roots-in@bw-10.rootsweb.com I saw the question on Latvia, and have a collegue from there, so here is his reply to your question....good luck. Sandra Subject: Latvia > Can anyone tell me if the Palatine area included Latvia > in 1688 or 1709. Until now, I did not know exactly what the Palatine area was, but what I found was: "The Palatinate was one of these [German] states, and was located along the Rhine River, roughly where the modern German state of Rhineland-Pfalz is located." All the following is based on the assumption that this is the right definition. Latvia was never part of this. It's pretty far from Rhineland. In 1688 it belonged to Sweden, and by 1709 or a little later became part of Russia as the result of the Nordic War (this is Russian name of this war - Swedes may have another one). Both before and after that there was a big German population, so I guess emigrants could mix with the Palatine ones. And there certainly could have been emigrants as a result of the war in these years. > Interested in the Kingdom of Talsen in particular. > Ancestor came from there and Palinate. Could it be both? There is a small and very nice town called Talsi in Latvia and its German name could have been Talsen, although I found no confirmation of it. (see http://www.latnet.lv/info%5Flatvia/talsi/default.htm ). Like I said - it has hardly anything to do with Palatinate. It was important administrative center but never a center of a kingdom (since it was part of Livonian Order, Sweden, Poland and Russia in different periods). There was black death epidemy in 1710. If your family got out of there in 1709 - good for them.