From roots-in@bl-12.rootsweb.com Sat Dec 13 10:29:00 1997 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00729; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from bl-12.rootsweb.com (bl-12.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.28]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA07563 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:32:12 -0800 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by bl-12.rootsweb.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA18581 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 10:32:10 -0800 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA30470 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:05:02 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21514 for roots-in@rootsweb.com; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:01:50 -0800 (PST) X-Envelope-From: mpalmer@netcom.com Sat Dec 13 07:01:49 1997 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21503; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (root@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA30465; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:05:00 -0800 Received: from [] (netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) with SMTP id HAA29857; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:04:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712131504.HAA29857@netcom8.netcom.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Michael Palmer" To: EdwQ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:55:16 -800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Ships 1849 CC: emigration-ships@listserv.northwest.com, gen-de-l@rootsweb.com, roots-l@rootsweb.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: roots-in@rootsweb.com [There was a question about the ship named the "Oneidius", modified by pre-screener dp] The ship ONEIDA made three passages to New York in 1849: 1. The packet ship ONEIDA, James Funck, master, arrived at New York on 6 March 1849, from Havre 20 January, with merchandise and 133 passengers in steerage. You will find a microfilm copy of the passenger manifest for this voyage in National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, roll 77, list #161 for 1849. You can borrow a copy of this microfilm through AGLL, any LDS (Mormon) Family History Center (Family History Library microfilm #0175431), or Interlibrary Loan. 2. The packet ship ONEIDA, John Willard, master, arrived at New York on 28 June 1849, from Havre 20 May, with merchandise and 274 passengers in steerage. You will find a microfilm copy of the passenger manifest for this voyage, dated 29 June 1849, in National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, roll 80, list #833 for 1849 (Family History Library microfilm #0175436). 3. The packet ship ONEIDA, John Willard, master, arrived at New York on 19 October 1849, 24 days from Havre, with merchandise and 263 passengers in steerage. You will find a microfilm copy of the passenger manifest for this voyage in National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, roll 84, list #1432 for 1849 (Family History Library microfilm #0175440). The ONEIDA was a three-masted, square-rigged ship, built by Westervelt & Mackey, New York, in 1841, for the Havre Second Line of packets between New York and Havre. 791 tons; 154' 6" x 34' x 22' 3" (length x beam x depth of hold). During her service with the Havre Second Line, her westbound passages averaged 38 days, her shortest passage being 28 days, her longest 59 days. She was wrecked near the Island of Guernsey, in the English Channel, 19 December 1849 [Robert Greenhalgh Albion, _Square- riggers on Schedule; The New York Sailing Packets to England, France, and the Cotton Ports_ (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1938), pp. 286-287; Carl C. Cutler, _Queens of the Western Ocean; The Story of America's Mail and Passenger Sailing Lines_ (Annapolis: United States Naval Institute, c1961), p. 395]. For additional information on the ONEIDA, contact the following institutions: 1. Peabody Essex Museum East India Square Salem, MA 01970 http://www.pem.org 2. The Mariners' Museum 100 Museum Drive Newport News, VA 23606-3798 http://www.mariner.org/mariner 3. Mystic Seaport Museum 50 Greenmanville Avenue Mystic, CT 06355-0990 http://www.mystic.org Michael Palmer -- Michael Palmer Claremont, California mpalmer@netcom.com