From nobody Fri Oct 6 22:17:19 2006 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k974HJ0f008924 for ROOTS-M; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:17:19 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k974CsYn008566 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:12:54 -0600 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.41]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k974CrQa022956 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:12:53 -0600 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k974Cr6B008536 for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:12:53 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k974CrYn008525 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:12:53 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k974CqKe022887 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:12:52 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k971U8FI029730 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:30:08 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k971U8uS029729 for roots-l@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:30:08 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k96KclFI028947 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:38:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k96NLKsN031505 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:21:20 -0600 X-Envelope-From: joefleshman@yahoo.com Fri Oct 6 17:21:20 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k96NLKYn031496 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:21:20 -0600 Received: from smtp101.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp101.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.26]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id k96NLJfd030600 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:21:19 -0600 Received: (qmail 88070 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2006 23:21:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To; b=582xeKlIsUHZOZzVRB5iemVJw9hkJ/8CRYqRXLc8K+xY15z6YMXOHOfEjC7T8+Hl27ruVKZne3cmJFaOcZsTiVodsYHI1VdwcbhWZBWM2edbsO4MFkJDitlRkHlCXe0/mlw/jepbgk7f1lKyHjTsqiHipZWmAiGJdMCZ2ygYTz8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO HOMEBASEMENT) (joefleshman@24.209.227.162 with login) by smtp101.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Oct 2006 23:21:14 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Joe Fleshman" To: "Kith-n-Kin" , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003001c6e960$ee3dfd50$6601a8c0@TOWER> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id k96NLKsN031505 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by roots-l.rootsweb.com id k96KclFI028947 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Just a footnote to your reply. Giacomo is normally translated a James. John is Giovanni Joe -----Original Message----- From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com [mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:03 PM To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather Melinda. Listed as "Missi". I found it in Ancestry by using Erm* and the birthplace. Year: 1910; Census Place: Syracuse Ward 15, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T624_1056; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 169; Image: 885. 612 (rear) E Adams Street 192/312 Missi John Head m w 37 m1 3 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian immigrated 1903 probably has papers in for naturalization. Notation is "Pd"; speaks English is a mason on Buildings Ermilinda wife f w 26 m1 3 0/0 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian 1907 And, of course, Giacomo has become John. I found in 1920: Year: 1920;Census Place: Syracuse Ward 18, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T625_1249; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 216; Image: 1017. Mussi Lena head f w 36 Wd 1903[4] Al Italy Italy Italy George son m w 8 s NY Italy Italy William son m w 6 S NY Italy Italy Joseph son m w 4 S NY Italy Italy Clerici, Katie daughter f w 0/12 s NY Italy Italy Clerici [Louie?] brother m w 33 s 1903[4] al Italy Italy Italy cook Hotel By the way, HQ has Musse for the surname. Wouldn't have found it if I hadn't found it in the 1910 first. (Ancestry has: Lena Mussi 36 George Mussi William Mussi 6 Joseph Mussi 4 Hattie Clenci 0/12 Louis Clenci 33 Not clear on the immigration dates -- even on Heritage Quest (the better pics for this census year) you can hardly make them out. I'll forward the scans to you by separate e-mail. Pat (in Tucson) |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melinda Lockwood |Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 14:03 |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather | | | |My paternal grandfather, Giacomo Mussi, came to the U.S. in |1902. He came through Ellis Island and I have sent for and |received information from them. I know, according to these |records that he was going to Syracuse, New York to be with his |cousin, Marco Mussi, who had come over from Italy earlier. He |came to Syracuse as a mason. | |My grandmother, Ermelinda Clerici came over in 1906 to marry |Giacomo. Donšt know if they ever married or not but they did |have four children. My problem lies with the fact that I canšt |find him once he allegedly arrived in the U.S. He does not |show up on any census records. My father was born in 1914 and |said that his father died when he was about 5 (that would make |it 1919 or so). | |Any suggestions as to how I can find this man? I live in |Missouri now, not Syracuse, so travel is, pretty much, out of |the question. Many thanks for any help anyone can provide. | |-- |Melinda Lockwood |Columbia, MO | | | | | -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release Date: 10/5/2006