From nobody Fri Oct 6 22:17:05 2006 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k974H5DL008881 for ROOTS-M; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:17:05 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k974DLYn008618 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:13:21 -0600 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.41]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k974DJel023237 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:13:19 -0600 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k974DKNY008588 for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:13:20 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k974DJYn008577 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:13:19 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k974DIGp023157 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:13:18 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k971UYFI029737 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:30:34 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k971UY5C029736 for roots-l@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:30:34 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k96L5vFI029008 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:05:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k96NmUTr032206 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:48:30 -0600 X-Envelope-From: kith-n-kin@cox.net Fri Oct 6 17:48:29 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k96NmTYn032197 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:48:29 -0600 Received: from fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (fed1rmmtao05.cox.net [68.230.241.34]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k96NmTON012777 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:48:30 -0600 Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao05.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20061006234825.BHSZ12909.fed1rmmtao05.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 19:48:25 -0400 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.154.102]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id XBns1V00y2CpHxQ0000000 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 19:48:18 -0400 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: , , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:48:02 -0700 Message-ID: <005d01c6e9a1$e04e4470$6601a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id k96NmTYn032197 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id k96NmUTr032206 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by roots-l.rootsweb.com id k96L5vFI029008 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Ah, very important! I wonder if the enumerator came up with the John, or if Giogomo did! Copying to Melinda, in case she doesn't see this. Thanks, Pat |-----Original Message----- |From: Joe Fleshman [mailto:joefleshman@yahoo.com] |Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 16:21 |To: Kith-n-Kin; ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather | | |Just a footnote to your reply. Giacomo is normally translated |a James. John is Giovanni Joe | | |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kith-n-Kin |Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:03 PM |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather | | | |Melinda. | |Listed as "Missi". I found it in Ancestry by using Erm* and |the birthplace. | |Year: 1910; Census Place: Syracuse Ward 15, Onondaga, New |York; Roll: T624_1056; Page: 14B; Enumeration |District: 169; Image: 885. |612 (rear) E Adams Street |192/312 |Missi John Head m w 37 m1 3 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian |immigrated 1903 probably has papers in for naturalization. |Notation is "Pd"; speaks English is a mason on Buildings |Ermilinda wife f w 26 m1 3 0/0 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian 1907 | |And, of course, Giacomo has become John. | |I found in 1920: | | Year: 1920;Census Place: Syracuse Ward 18, Onondaga, New |York; Roll: T625_1249; Page: 1B; Enumeration |District: 216; Image: 1017. |Mussi Lena head f w 36 Wd 1903[4] Al Italy Italy Italy |George son m w 8 s NY Italy Italy |William son m w 6 S NY Italy Italy |Joseph son m w 4 S NY Italy Italy |Clerici, Katie daughter f w 0/12 s NY Italy Italy |Clerici [Louie?] brother m w 33 s 1903[4] al Italy Italy Italy |cook Hotel | |By the way, HQ has Musse for the surname. Wouldn't have found |it if I hadn't found it in the 1910 first. | |(Ancestry has: |Lena Mussi 36 |George Mussi |William Mussi 6 |Joseph Mussi 4 |Hattie Clenci 0/12 |Louis Clenci 33 | |Not clear on the immigration dates -- even on Heritage Quest |(the better pics for this census year) you can hardly make them out. | |I'll forward the scans to you by separate e-mail. | |Pat (in Tucson) | | ||-----Original Message----- ||From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com ||[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melinda Lockwood ||Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 14:03 ||To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com ||Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather || || || ||My paternal grandfather, Giacomo Mussi, came to the U.S. in 1902. He ||came through Ellis Island and I have sent for and received |information ||from them. I know, according to these records that he was going to ||Syracuse, New York to be with his cousin, Marco Mussi, who had come ||over from Italy earlier. He came to Syracuse as a mason. || ||My grandmother, Ermelinda Clerici came over in 1906 to marry Giacomo. ||Donšt know if they ever married or not but they did have four |children. ||My problem lies with the fact that I canšt find him once he allegedly ||arrived in the U.S. He does not show up on any census records. My ||father was born in 1914 and said that his father died when he |was about ||5 (that would make it 1919 or so). || ||Any suggestions as to how I can find this man? I live in |Missouri now, ||not Syracuse, so travel is, pretty much, out of the question. Many ||thanks for any help anyone can provide. || ||-- ||Melinda Lockwood ||Columbia, MO || || || || || | | | | | | | | |-- |No virus found in this incoming message. |Checked by AVG Free Edition. |Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/464 - Release |Date: 10/5/2006 | | |