From nobody Fri Oct 6 16:52:23 2006 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k96MqN4j021761 for ROOTS-M; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:52:23 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k96JmfYn024301 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:48:41 -0600 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.41]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k96JmbkU020147 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:48:37 -0600 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k96JmanW024226 for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:48:36 -0600 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k96JmaYn024215 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:48:36 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k96JmGjh019754 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:48:33 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k96G60FI028309 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:06:00 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k96G60Ps028308 for roots-l@rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:06:00 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k96DKsFI027870 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:20:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k96G3QPL023773 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:03:26 -0600 X-Envelope-From: kith-n-kin@cox.net Fri Oct 6 10:03:26 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k96G3QYn023764 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:03:26 -0600 Received: from fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (fed1rmmtao08.cox.net [68.230.241.31]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k96G3M4Q016175 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:03:22 -0600 Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20061006160318.LMJV22977.fed1rmmtao08.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:03:18 -0400 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.154.102]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id X4301V00f2CpHxQ0000000 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:03:11 -0400 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: , "'Melinda Lockwood'" Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:03:09 -0700 Message-ID: <003001c6e960$ee3dfd50$6601a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 192.168.65.34 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lists5.rootsweb.com id k96G3QYn023764 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists5.rootsweb.com id k96G3QPL023773 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by roots-l.rootsweb.com id k96DKsFI027870 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Melinda. Listed as "Missi". I found it in Ancestry by using Erm* and the birthplace. Year: 1910; Census Place: Syracuse Ward 15, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T624_1056; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 169; Image: 885. 612 (rear) E Adams Street 192/312 Missi John Head m w 37 m1 3 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian immigrated 1903 probably has papers in for naturalization. Notation is "Pd"; speaks English is a mason on Buildings Ermilinda wife f w 26 m1 3 0/0 It/Italian It/Italian It/Italian 1907 And, of course, Giacomo has become John. I found in 1920: Year: 1920;Census Place: Syracuse Ward 18, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T625_1249; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 216; Image: 1017. Mussi Lena head f w 36 Wd 1903[4] Al Italy Italy Italy George son m w 8 s NY Italy Italy William son m w 6 S NY Italy Italy Joseph son m w 4 S NY Italy Italy Clerici, Katie daughter f w 0/12 s NY Italy Italy Clerici [Louie?] brother m w 33 s 1903[4] al Italy Italy Italy cook Hotel By the way, HQ has Musse for the surname. Wouldn't have found it if I hadn't found it in the 1910 first. (Ancestry has: Lena Mussi 36 George Mussi William Mussi 6 Joseph Mussi 4 Hattie Clenci 0/12 Louis Clenci 33 Not clear on the immigration dates -- even on Heritage Quest (the better pics for this census year) you can hardly make them out. I'll forward the scans to you by separate e-mail. Pat (in Tucson) |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Melinda Lockwood |Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 14:03 |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] Can't find grandfather | | | |My paternal grandfather, Giacomo Mussi, came to the U.S. in |1902. He came through Ellis Island and I have sent for and |received information from them. I know, according to these |records that he was going to Syracuse, New York to be with his |cousin, Marco Mussi, who had come over from Italy earlier. He |came to Syracuse as a mason. | |My grandmother, Ermelinda Clerici came over in 1906 to marry |Giacomo. Donšt know if they ever married or not but they did |have four children. My problem lies with the fact that I canšt |find him once he allegedly arrived in the U.S. He does not |show up on any census records. My father was born in 1914 and |said that his father died when he was about 5 (that would make |it 1919 or so). | |Any suggestions as to how I can find this man? I live in |Missouri now, not Syracuse, so travel is, pretty much, out of |the question. Many thanks for any help anyone can provide. | |-- |Melinda Lockwood |Columbia, MO | | | | |