From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sun Oct 1 04:38:01 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k91Ac1Yn013736; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 04:38:01 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k91Ac01X009976 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 04:38:00 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k917taFI023616 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 03:55:36 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k917taPO023615 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sun, 1 Oct 2006 03:55:36 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k8UM4pFI022587 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:04:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k910l4JY001033 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:47:04 -0600 X-Envelope-From: treviawbeverly@houston.rr.com Sat Sep 30 18:47:04 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k910l4Yn001024 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:47:04 -0600 Received: from ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.40]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k910l1kI016022 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:47:02 -0600 Received: from oemcomputer (cpe-24-162-26-136.houston.res.rr.com [24.162.26.136]) by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k910kjdD024449; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:46:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00c501c6e4f4$6d971990$6401a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Trevia W Beverly" To: "Donald Turner" , References: <003701c6e4be$33f2ff00$bb81a218@Donald> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] paupers graves - ** HARRIS CO TX Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:56:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com I guess I missed the beginning of this thread - but if I may, I'd like to chime in now. Discovering 'paupers graves' will definitely be on an individual county basis. Example, here in Harris County the County maintains - and has for many years (see below) a place for such graves. Yet, many of our 'regular' cemeteries have been charitable in designating space for indigents, so they would all have to be checked for a thorough search. Having missed the original posting I am not sure what the original request was. If it is trying to find out where a 'pauper' would have been buried - that is, in what county - then the Institutional Soundexes would be a great help. At least for the specific census years, the various institutions such as 'poor farms,' homes for the aged,' etc. would be listed. Then going to the actual census may give up the individual's name. With that information, it may be easier than you think to chase down which cemetery was in use for the purpose. Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas ** >From At Rest: A Historical Directory of Harris County, Texas, Cemeteries (1822-2001) Including Burial Customs and Other Interesting Facts, With a Listing of Past and Present Communities, Funeral Home and Monument Companies.1st Edition 1994; 2nd Edition enlarged from 307 to 509 cross-indexed listings. Compiled by Trevia Wooster Beverly (Tejas Publications & Research, Houston, 2001). 204. HARRIS COUNTY CEMETERY I (Old): 1894-1937. 8300 Magnolia, Edloe @ Bissonnet. Graves moved to Harris County Cemetery (II) on Oates Road (qv.). See "Gravestones Wrecked by Vandals,"Houston Chronicle 16 Sep 1946. 492X 205. HARRIS COUNTY BOYS SCHOOL CEMETERY: Indian Cemetery (dates to some portion of the Turtle Bay Period, or roughly ca. 650-900 A.D.) on property of the old Harris County Boys' School, situated on a 115 acre tract four miles east of Webster (ca. 1897-1916). Approximately 21 miles southeast of Houston, 1/2 mile east of NASA, burial site about two acres on east bank of Mud Lake (now referred to by developers as Forest Lake); Excavated 1969-1973. Only known Indian burial ground in Harris County gives evidence of 32 burials. See Excavations at the Harris County Boys School Cemetery: Analysis of Galveston Bay Area Mortuary Practices by Lawrence E. Aten, Charles K. Chandler, Al B. Wesolowsky and Robert M. Malina, Texas Archeological Society Special Publication No. 3, 1976. Entered in the National Registry of Historical Places, 1978. References may be found for Armand Bayou Park. 619B 206. HARRIS COUNTY CEMETERY II: 5439 Oates Road, south of Hwy. 90. 1937 - . About 15 acres operated and maintained by Harris County Social Services. Original site (see above) was east of Edloe and Bissonnet (1894-1937) and referred to as "Poor Ditch," and still later as "Poor Farm Ditch." All graves moved from original site, with most being reinterred in a common grave as there were no names, etc. Current burials are by yearly contract with local funeral directors (who should also have some records available; Felix H. Morales and Santana Funeral Homes have had the contract most of the time). The charge to the county for an adult burial under the current contract is $399. [1993]. " Those buried included stillborn babies and indigents, as well as unidentified people. A cemetery of numbered markers, records are on computer beginning Aug 1937." The 299 paupers buried in 1992 actually marked the first decline in years, since 1991's high of 359. In 1987, for example, the county buried 223 paupers; in 1988, 270; in 1989, 271; and in 1990, 295. CONTACT: Harris County Social Services, 9418 Jensen Drive, Houston 77093. 713.696-7900 Appendix Section. See "Slender row of concrete slabs mark county Pauper's Cemetery," Houston Chronicle 03 Jun 1979; "Simple Ceremonies, Quiet Burial Mark County-Financed Funerals" Houston Chronicle 22 May 1983; Memorial Day? Graves of Forgotten Dead Untended Today Houston Chronicle 30 May 1951; "City spends more on funerals," Houston Post 09 Sep 1984; "Officials try to keep respect for paupers alive plan arrangements attend to burials in county cemetery", Houston Post 31 Mar 1993; "Dignity After Death. Paupers get proper funeral and burial at Harris County Cemetery,"Houston Post 15 Jan 1996. 456N I'm working on an addendum : 206. HARRIS COUNTY CEMETERY. Oates Road. "County to cremate unidentified" HOUSTON CHRONICLE 17 Apr 2002. this 18-acre, tax-support public Cemetery is filling rapidly, the County will begin cremating bodies of unidentified paupers, rather than burying them. Officials hope to use the law authorized by state lawmakers to counties in 1999, to prevent the cemetery from running out of space. 6,500 children and adults are buried here, many were identified but their families or friends were unable to afford burial costs. NOTE: Mr. Sidney Braquet is in charge: His direct telephone # is 713.696-7904.