From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sun May 21 10:24:53 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4LGOrjb026060; Sun, 21 May 2006 10:24:53 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4LGOmDf029557 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 10:24:48 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4LDoGFI007852 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 09:50:16 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k4LDoGRN007851 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sun, 21 May 2006 09:50:16 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k4LCL9FI007662 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 08:21:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k4LEtWis027740 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sun, 21 May 2006 08:55:32 -0600 X-Envelope-From: botteron@alum.mit.edu Sun May 21 08:55:32 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k4LEtWjb027731 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 08:55:32 -0600 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4LEtSi6013641 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 08:55:28 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.47] ([70.19.238.228]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IZM007RMES8WDO1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com; Sun, 21 May 2006 09:55:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:55:57 -0400 From: Carol Botteron In-reply-to: <44703F18.20884.2F3B7D@localhost> To: otg@csolve.net, ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Carol Botteron Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <44703F18.20884.2F3B7D@localhost> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: TACHART surname (German)? Thank you! I should have mentioned that I don't have Ancestry, just Heritage Quest, which (as far as I can tell) doesn't allow wildcards and has only the head of household indexed. I'll look at that 1870 listing you found. Also I'll try to find a marriage record in the hope that it will list her parents. I have some German ancestors and have noticed the middle-name phenomenon in males at least. I have a Johann Sebastian who finally surfaced under the name "Bast." Carol B. At 10:21 AM -0400 5/21/06, Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: >On 21 May 2006 at 8:00, ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > >> >> Specifically: Elizabeth TACHART b. 27 March 1860, >> supposedly in Germantown, Pennsylvania. (Mapquest finds 5 >> of these but she most likely was near Pittsburgh.) She died >> 24 March 1916. All this from family records. >> >> She married (about 1877) Albert BEILSTEIN (b. 1852 Penn.) >> whose parents came from Hesse Darmstadt. In the 1880, 1900, >> and 1910 censuses Elizabeth and Albert lived in Allegheny >> (Allegheny Co.), Pennsylvania. >> >> I'd like to find Elizabeth's parents but have had no luck >> with censuses, IGI, etc., even with creative spelling. > >Hi Carol > >My advice is to concentrate on the 1870 census. You should >find Elizabeth as a 10 year (give or take a year or two) >with her parents. Instead of using creative spelling, make >wildcards your friend! > >For eg on Ancestry.com I can search under > > eliz* tac* > >which covers a great deal of possible spellings for first >and last name. > >If that comes up empty, try 'lizzie' but use wildcards and >use liz* > >Also you can try as the surname tuc* or tic* or tak* > and so on... > >Another idea is to search just under the surname (I'd use >tac* to start), AND Alleghany county - since Elizabeth and >hubby lived there. Also be sure to think about the fact >that if they are German, Elizabeth was probably her middle >name, not her first, so she may be under something like >"Anne Elizabeth" or some such name - perhaps even "Anne E" >so you will never find her under "Elizabeth" > >For a how-to on using search engines and wildcards see >http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/ > >As an aside, I had a quick look in 1870 using the ideas I >gave you above, and found a suitable candidate -- Mary E. >Tacker > birth Year: abt 1862 >Age in 1870: 8 >Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Home in 1870: Pittsburgh Ward 20, Allegheny, Pennsylvania >Post Office: Wilkins > >Her mother, Mary E. age 32 was born in Hanover Germany, her >father (Barney?) age 35 was born in Prussia. Little Mary E. >has a sister called Mary A. (which reinforces my point >about middle names, that's a German custom to give a child >two names at birth with the second name being the name >used) > >For help with census records see >http://allcensusrecords.com/ There's a great deal you can >learn from the census besides names, ages and occupations - >such as immigration years, naturalization years, etc > >Lorine > > >-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze > >* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) >http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ >* Naturalization Records >http://naturalizationrecords.com/ >* Images of Ships Lists >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ > >otg@csolve.net or olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com