From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Thu Mar 2 17:19:04 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k230J4jb024597; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:19:04 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k230Ianh023545 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:18:36 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k22LmmFI020608 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:48:48 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k22Lmmhw020607 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:48:48 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k22L36FI020463 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:03:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k22NWiZk024935 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:44 -0700 X-Envelope-From: Kith-n-Kin@cox.net Thu Mar 2 16:32:44 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k22NWijb024926 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:44 -0700 Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (fed1rmmtao12.cox.net [68.230.241.27]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k22NWgEf029361 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:43 -0700 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.155.47]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060302232859.WVYA17437.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@TOWER>; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:28:59 -0500 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: "'David Warncken'" , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Data Entry Convention for Illegitimate Surname Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:32:40 -0700 Message-ID: <004b01c63e51$99484040$6401a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <7.0.1.0.0.20060302214659.01ad2710@bigpond.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by admin.rootsweb.com id k22NWijb024926 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com David Is your program flexible enough to use both? In The Master Genealogist, you could put in the birth name, along with the date and source of the information -- baptismal record -- you would then make another separate name tag entry with the name used later in life, with the appropriate dates "From". Then, you choose one or the other to be "primary" and therefore what you see first in reports. Perhaps you use the father's name, because that is what most adult records would use, but, because of the original name, you could end up with a sentence like, "John was registered and baptized with his mother's family name, Smith, and was known by that name from 1842 to 1863. As an adult he chose to use his father's surname, Singley, and was known as John Singley after 1863." Of course, you could do this for many reasons -- adoption, or a legal name change for any reason. We think of this especially with surnames, but the same applies to given names as well. Good luck, Pat (in Tucson) |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Warncken |Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 04:08 |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] Data Entry Convention for Illegitimate Surname | | |I would like to know whether there is a convention for recording the |surname of illegitimate children. | |Let us imagine Mr FATHER and the widow MOTHER lived together in |England in the 1800s but they never formally married. However they |had and raised several children together. | |The birth of each child was registered with the surname MOTHER. Each |child was baptized with the name MOTHER but the father's name was not |entered into the parish register. | |However in later life the children assumed and used the surname |HUSBAND. This included census records when the children were still |live with their parents. | |So should I record the each child's surname as MOTHER because that is |the name used for its birth registration and baptism? |Or should I record the surname as FATHER because that is the name |that was used after that? | |The program I use for recording my family history is flexible enough |to accept either. | |David. | |