From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sat Jul 22 22:43:55 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6N4htjb021836; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:43:55 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6N4hN38017394 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:43:23 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6N258FI025403 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:05:08 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k6N258B4025402 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:05:08 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k6MMIKFI024978 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:18:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k6N0uOSa006062 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:56:24 -0600 X-Envelope-From: MaeMay510@aol.com Sat Jul 22 18:56:23 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6N0uNjb006051 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:56:23 -0600 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6N0uKe8002168 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:56:20 -0600 Received: from MaeMay510@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id e.4c4.5325c26 (39329) for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:56:10 -0400 (EDT) From: MaeMay510@aol.com Message-ID: <4c4.5325c26.31f4232a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:56:10 EDT To: Roots-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5319 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: KURTZROCK immigration request answered I haven't received a response to this message sent privately and wondered if it might have ended up in a dead letter box. It seems important to get this to the poster, so I'm resending it here in the open list. Any data on them would be appreciated. I don't have access to Ancestry.com - just c The ancestor I am seeking is an immigrant from Germany, about 1860 or thereabouts: Heinrich (Henry) KURTZROCK. He settled in Alleghany Co., PA. I am also seeking WINKLEVOSS (WINKLEVOH) - also from Germany but I don't have a clue as to when immigration occurred. I see a One World entry for both your surnames, with their children. Did you enter them? Henry Kurtzrock Born: 1851 [city], [county], [state], Germany Died: 3 Oct 1919 Mckeesport, Dravosburg, PA, USA Family Groups Spouse (javascript:__doPostBack('_ctl16$m_rptSpouses$_ctl0$removeFamilyImg','')) _Remove this family_ (javascript:__doPostBack('_ctl16$m_rptSpouses$_ctl0$removeFamilyLnk','')) _Margaret Winkelvoss_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=66467169) Born: Jan 1855 in Saw Mill Run, Pittsburg, PA, USA Died: 31 Mar 1924 in PA, Dravosburg, PA, USA (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=66467169&ret=106435683) _Edit_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=66467169&ret=106435683) Marriage: (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/AddMarriage.aspx?pid=106435683&sid=66467169) _Add Marriage Information_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/AddMarriage.aspx?pid=106435683&sid=66467169) Children Sex Birth _George Kurtzrock_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=89250309) M (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=89250309&ret=106435683) _Edit_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=89250309&ret=106435683) _Arthur Kurtzrock_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=55671894) M (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=55671894&ret=106435683) _Edit_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=55671894&ret=106435683) _Henry Kurtzrock_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=77881762) M (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=77881762&ret=106435683) _Edit_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=77881762&ret=106435683) _Christopher Carl Kurtzrock_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=92315836) M 4 Mar 1877 in Camden, [county], PA, USA (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=92315836&ret=106435683) _Edit_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=92315836&ret=106435683) _Robert R Kurtzrock_ (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=109763507) M 21 Jun 1887 in Dravosburg, [county], PA, USA (http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/editperson.aspx?pid=109763507&ret=106435683) Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Record (javascript:showPop('infoPopup')) about Henry Kurtzrock Name: Year: 1878 Place: Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania Source Publication Code: 9699 Primary Immigrant: Kurtzrock, Henry Annotation: Much information given, including date of intention to acquire citizenship, date of naturalization, place of residence, country of birth, and name of sponsor. Source Bibliography: WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, Pittsburgh, compilers. A List of Immigrants Who Applied for Naturalization Papers in the District Courts of Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh: the society. Vol. 4, section 2, 1876-1879. 1980. 107p. 10,650 names (both sections). Page: 42 This is exactly what I ordered through ILL. It unfortunately was nothing more than an index, not the full record I hoped. I saw where Henry married Winklevoss. She was born in PA, so perhaps something is available earlier for her father. Funny, there isn't a single Winklevos/s in immigration and only one in census...Henirich, born in Germany about 1860 and living in Illinois. Ah, this is interesting. The One World Tree item is wrong. Margaret was born in Germany, not PA. Her parents may not have migrated at all. 1880 census from LDS site. _Henry KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_0&frompage=5) Self M Male W 28 HESSE CASSEL Coalminer HESSE CASSEL HESSE CASSEL _Margt. KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880 US_9466218_1&frompage=5) Wife M Female W 26 PA Keeping House --- --- _Annie E. KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_2&frompage=5) Dau S Female W 9 PA HESSE CAS --- _Henry KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_3&frompage=5) Son S Male W 7 PA HESSE CAS --- _Charlotte KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_4 &frompage=5) Dau S Female W 5 PA HESSE CAS --- _Christ KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_5&frompage=5) Son S Male W 3 PA HESSE CAS --- _George KURTZROCK_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1880US_9466218_6&frompage=5) Son S Male W 1 PA HESSE CAS --- Source Information: Census Place Precinct 1, Mifflin, Allegheny, Pennsylvania Family History Library Film _1255090_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*,180,0&filmno=1255090) NA Film Number T9-1090 Page Number _420B_ (javascript:imageWindow=open('1880USCensusCost.asp','imageRecord','menubar=yes,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=y es,width=600,height=440');imageWindow=open('http://www.ancestry.com/FamilySear ch/?nara=T9-1090&pgno=420B&irecid=1880US_9466218_0','imageRecord','menubar=yes ,toolbar=yes,status=yes,resizable=yes,width=600,height=440');imageWindow.focus ();) So if and when you order the migration film through the LDS or whether you write to the NARA and get a printed copy of that page, you may find so much more information on this family. You should have a fun time with this. German records are available at the LDS to order. I did check the IGI and Ancestral File but Heinrich Kurtzrock shows up only in the USA 1880 census. You can, however, order film from Hesse in that time period and search church records for more information.. No, I'm not LDS, but I've used their facility for many years and appreciate their efforts to gather data around the world. They are very helpful and our center, at least, does have a German language expert and one who has researched film and actually traveled to Germany to research. Shirley Maynard Hampton, VA