From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Wed Jul 19 08:47:58 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6JElwjb029595; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:47:58 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6JEltwN009683 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:47:55 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6JC9qFI010752 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:09:52 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k6JC9qq0010751 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:09:52 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k6JAwWFI010541 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:58:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k6JDaOS3022398 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:36:24 -0600 X-Envelope-From: otg@csolve.net Wed Jul 19 07:36:24 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6JDaOjb022389 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:36:24 -0600 Received: from balrog.csolve.net (balrog.csolve.net [207.164.80.179]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6JDaIFh007218 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:36:20 -0600 Received: from 209.226.38.80.hub3.csolve.net ([209.226.38.80] helo=Lorine1) by balrog.csolve.net with esmtp (Exim 4.50 (FreeBSD)) id 1G3CDd-000FhM-Vh; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:36:06 -0400 From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" Organization: Olive Tree Genealogy To: ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:36:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-to: otg@csolve.net CC: CDa9458691@cs.com Message-ID: <44BDFD04.28854.4EBA8A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200607191300.k6JD0KZX008034@lists5.rootsweb.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: Ship Lists On 19 Jul 2006 at 7:00, ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > How do you find records for a ship that is not listed in > the `ship lists'? I have a microfilm account of the > `Armida', mastered by Captain Rose whose route was via the > port of Hamburg, through Quebec, Canada, disenbarking at the > port of Buffalo, New York in May of 1852. Yet I have been > unable to find any more details on this ship, it's master > or passengers. Hello Carol You are looking for the pre-Castle Garden entry period for New York. Ships passenger lists to New York are not indexed for this time period (except on Ancestry.com) BUT Passenger lists *are* available on microfilm. Since you know the date of arrival and ship name you can order the microfilm or have NARA do a lookup for you. For a complete list of film numbers (NARA or FHC) for ships going to New York after 1820, see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml Find your date (year, month, day if known) and write down the NARA or Family History Centre film number you need. You might also want to check the ongoing project to fill in the 1847-1892 index gap for passenger arrival records in New York. This project consists of 3 sets of records: 1. NY Times extracts for ship arrivals and passenger names 2. Images (and some accompanying transcripts) of actual passenger lists in this time period 3. NY Almshouse records for 1855-1858 (for immigrants arriving before these years) The complete index of NY Times years and shipping news extracts is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/nytimes.htm You can also search the NY Times online for a small fee through other sites. There are links at the above URL. Images of ships passenger lists for these Unindexed NY years are online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ The Almshouse Records start at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/ny_alms1855.htm Also check online ships and links to ships in this time period at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny182549.shtml Lorine http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_newyork.shtml NARA & FHC film numbers for NY passenger lists after 1820 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa_ny.shtml Passenger Lists to New York all years http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchnyships.shtml Search Engine for online Internet Passenger Lists to NY