From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Mon Jul 10 08:03:25 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6AE3Pjb017127; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:03:25 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6AE3LeC015128 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:03:21 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k6ABPoFI023013 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:25:50 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k6ABPogu023012 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:25:50 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k6ABKgFI022949 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:20:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k6ADw22F003854 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:58:02 -0600 X-Envelope-From: JNich57@aol.com Mon Jul 10 07:58:02 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6ADw2jb003843 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:58:02 -0600 Received: from imo-m23.mail.aol.com (imo-m23.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.4]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6ADvumT009463 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 07:57:57 -0600 Received: from JNich57@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id e.534.3439550 (41809); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: JNich57@aol.com Message-ID: <534.3439550.31e3b6d9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:57:45 EDT Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Need help with Masonic marker on gggrandfather's grave. To: Cdwalkered@aol.com, ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5027 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Cindy -- The cross with the crown is usually associated with York Rite. Their web site is: _http://www.yorkrite.com/_ (http://www.yorkrite.com/) Looking at the home page there is a link to Commanderies but you need to select a state first. Suggest you put in the state the grave is in and see if there is a Mount Olivet or Zion Commandery. If not, I would contact York Rite to see if there was such a Commandery in existence at the time your gggrandfather lived. Hope this helps. JON In a message dated 7/9/2006 6:31:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Cdwalkered@aol.com writes: My gg grandfather died in 1900. When I visited his grave this summer, all of the plants had been removed from the front of the stone, and there was an iron marker 9" by 9" half buried in the ground. I need help identifying the markings on the marker. The writing on the marker is as follows" Mount Olivet Commandery Zion. In the center of the marker is a cross with a crown around it. I can't read the Latin words, as they are worn down. The symbols on the outside of the marker are clockwise as follows: a cross, a hand, a heart or shield with nails through it, a dove or bird of some kind, a crossbones and skull, a zigzag that looks like a symbol for mountains with a figure at the top, a compass with a capital G (I'm told that is the Masonic symbol), and a snake. The cemetery people had no information on the marker. I copied the symbols and took it to a Mason, but he didn't know anything about the symbols. Also, any suggestions as to how to preserve it on the grave site? Thanks, Cindy Walker I would appreciate any help that anyone can give to me.