From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sun Jul 2 13:31:58 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k62JVwjb029003; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 13:31:58 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k62JVufl021911 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 13:31:56 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k62GssFI006805 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 12:54:54 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k62Gsspu006804 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 12:54:54 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k62E9YFI006473 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:09:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k62GkQ47018935 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:46:26 -0600 X-Envelope-From: elizhgene@gmail.com Sun Jul 2 10:46:26 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k62GkQjb018924 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:46:26 -0600 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k62GkN3n023480 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:46:24 -0600 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b36so1165526pyb for ; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 09:46:25 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ek+5SjVqM9ROz8c74j+Z7j0GToct4flcoW23/wtirdRvcBLat5XjwroNvSbtg790rn5r31eCrqaeu3ZAYJ9SOY5XVUwJ97ibjCh6EGuBf9KWLxNEprbLXz09ygcf/bymEJU0YMUC2W/bKbRUyP2tJxUen4WS7TmYlfPZdOi72oM= Received: by 10.35.60.16 with SMTP id n16mr271010pyk; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 09:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.52.20 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 09:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 12:46:25 -0400 From: "Eliz Hanebury" To: "noel ware" , ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] New information In-Reply-To: <20060702114249.53097.qmail@web84107.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed References: <20060702114249.53097.qmail@web84107.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Have you searched USgenweb for Baltimore? I know one of my fellow list members does lookups there and he has many Baltimore city directories. Try the websites and ask for the lookups. I had been voting for the first entry but Israel is, I believe, with the Silvermans below. Eliz In 1910 there are these Goldsteins, Isr* Isrkal Goldstein Election District 1, Baltimore, MD abt 1872 Russia White Male Mary E Howe 15 Wm M Howe 17 John Howe 12 Job Howe 10 Iowa Catharine Howe 8 Iowa Allen Howe 2 Joseph Samples 21 Isrkal Goldstein [Isreal Goldestein] Age in 1910: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Birthplace: Russia Home in 1910: Election District 1, Baltimore, Maryland Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Year of Immigration: 1885 Mother's Birth Place: Russia Father's Birth Place: Russia Household Members: Name Age Isrkal Goldstein 38 Rolly Goldstein 36 Attie Goldstein 12 Girdon G Goldstein 10 Edna Goldstein 8 Jeroma A Goldstein 2 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Election District 1, Baltimore, Maryland; Roll: T624_550; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 2; Image: 940. Israel Goldstern [Israel Goldstein] Baltimore Ward 5, Baltimore (Independent City), MD abt 1888 Russia White Male Israel Goldstern [Israel Goldstein] Age in 1910: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Birthplace: Russia Home in 1910: Baltimore Ward 5, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law Year of Immigration: 1910 Mother's Birth Place: Russia Father's Birth Place: Russia Household Members: Name Age Louis Silberman 41 Fannie Silberman 42 Dorsh Silberman 15 Sarah Silberman 13 Harry Silberman 10 Hoby Silberman 4 Israel Goldstern 22 brother in law Israel Goldskin [Israel Goldstein] Baltimore Ward 5, Baltimore (Independent City), MD abt 1864 Russia White Male Israel Goldstein Election District 18, Prince George's, MD abt 1870 Russia White Male On 7/2/06, noel ware wrote: Morning, I have some new info re. fam members. If anyone could provide some assistance re. any further data on these folks, I'd greatly appreciate it... My great grandparents, Israel and Rose Goldstein, were members of the Brith Sholom temple, Joseph Friedenwald Lodge in Baltimore MD during the early 20th century. I believe the organization began circa 1911. I have contacted the Jewish Museum of MD via email, with no resopnse as of yet. I found a record of a photo in their collections data base of a banquet celebrating the order's 30th anniversary dated 1/26/1941. Also, Morris and Dora Goldstein in charge of Israel's and Rose's marriage in Baltimore most likely around 1911, but I have no further info... Morris and Dora had a daughter, Florence Goldstein who married a Sam Tossman. They had a son, Herbert Tossman...all in Baltimore MD. So, Herbert, if my calculations are correct (I have no birthdates), should have been born in 1940s/1950s. No further info... And, Michael Goldstein, another brother of Israel's, married Lizzie. They settled in Philadelphia PA. They had 2 sons, Paul and Sidney Goldstein. Paul had 2 daughters, Arlene and Jodi Goldstein, and Sidney had a son, Freddie Goldstein, all in Philly. No further info... Plus, Fannie Goldstein, Israel's sister, married Louis Silverman (Baltimore MD). Fannie and Louis had a daughter, Dorothy. Dorothy, then married Nathan Engel. Dorothy and Nathan had a daughter, Peggy. She married a Frankel. Her husband owned Frankel Cadillac Company in Baltimore MD. They may be residing in Florida currently. No further info... In addition, Israel, Morris, Michael, and Fannie had another "unknown" brother who went to South Africa to delve into the diamond trade... My goal remains to find any record of Israel's, Morris's, Michael's, and Fannie's parents...my great great grandparents. It is possible they were killed in Riga Latvia...none of my living relatives (to whom I know of) know anything about my gggrandparents... Any and all assistance will be most welcomed...thank you in advance...Erica Israel Goldskin [Israel Goldstein] Age in 1910: 46 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Birthplace: Russia Home in 1910: Baltimore Ward 5, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Year of Immigration: 1891 Mother's Birth Place: Russia Father's Birth Place: Russia Household Members: Name Age Israel Goldskin 46 Esther Goldskin 42 Annie Goldskin 18 Samuel Goldskin 17 Gertrude Goldskin 16 Susie Goldskin 14 Israel Goldstein Age in 1910: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Birthplace: Russia Home in 1910: Election District 18, Prince George's, Maryland Neighbors: View Results Race: White Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Year of Immigration: 1888 Mother's Birth Place: Russia Father's Birth Place: Russia Household Members: Name Age Israel Goldstein 40 Emma A Goldstein 39 Solomon B Goldstein 17 Lillian B Goldstein 13 Abraham J Goldstein 10 Milton Goldstein 9 Irving Goldstein 5 Beulah B Goldstein 4 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Election District 18, Prince George's, Maryland; Roll: T624_567; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 75; Image: 539.