From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Fri Jan 20 17:33:03 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k0L0X3Rc028805; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:33:03 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0L0WvpZ024391 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:33:00 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0KLF2FI012184 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:15:02 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k0KLF2Op012183 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:15:02 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0KKRkFI012035 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:27:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k0KMsxkU019617 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:54:59 -0700 X-Envelope-From: JYoung6180@aol.com Fri Jan 20 15:54:58 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k0KMswRc019606 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:54:58 -0700 Received: from imr-d05.mx.aol.com (imr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.66]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0KMsuHr019001 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:54:56 -0700 Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mail.aol.com [172.21.18.205]) by imr-d05.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-343d1425d1b4; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:04:45 -0500 Received: from JYoung6180@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id e.2ce.1f66c6d (48576) for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:49:23 -0500 (EST) From: JYoung6180@aol.com Message-ID: <2ce.1f66c6d.310298c3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:49:23 EST To: Roots-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5021 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-IP: 172.21.18.205 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: ROOTS-L Digest V06 #28 -- Birth Certificates Karen wrote: <> --- While I seldom disagree with Karen, I think it highly unlikely that someone born in the mid 1850s would have lived long enough to have been covered under Social Security -- or to have applied for benefits based upon marriage to a wage earner who was eligible for benefits. It would have meant that the covered wage earner would have to have worked in covered employment after January 1, 1937 and to have continued working long enough to have been covered and to have qualified or benefits. That would imply that the wage earner in a case like this would have worked well into their 90s and worked in what was at the time a limited number of jobs that were covered by Social Security, and most workers would not have done so. However, I do agree with Karen that delayed birth certificates can be a valuable research tool if they are available in the state of interest to you--but even then it is important to remember that they originated at a date far removed from the birth of the individual and don't carry the same weight as a birth recorded at or near the event. States may have had reasons other than eligibility for SS benefits to make delayed birth certificates available--so it is worth checking. For the Ohio birth in 1853 I'd try to find a baptismal or other church record and failing that the probable next best source would be the 1860 census. For the Wisconsin birth in 1847 I'd think the 1850 census would be a pretty reliable source as would a baptismal record established prior to age 5. In either case, locating someone who inherited a family Bible with these births lists would be invaluable. Joan