From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Tue Feb 14 11:36:03 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1EIa3jb010486; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:36:03 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1EIa2aE009490 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:36:02 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1EG7BFI015510 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:07:11 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k1EG7BpM015509 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:07:11 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k1EFxmFI015428 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:59:48 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k1EISSCh005181 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:28:28 -0700 X-Envelope-From: Kith-n-Kin@cox.net Tue Feb 14 11:28:28 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1EISRjb005172 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:28:27 -0700 Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (fed1rmmtao04.cox.net [68.230.241.35]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1EISQEE004976 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:28:27 -0700 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.155.47]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060214182523.TOFB17690.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@TOWER>; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:25:23 -0500 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Question concerning census data Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:28:12 -0700 Message-ID: <002301c63194$6aac85d0$6401a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <28e.58e3e9c.312332c1@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by admin.rootsweb.com id k1EISRjb005172 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Here are possibles for this family from 1860. However, we should note that there were similar families with some of these names. Year: 1860; Census Place: Argyle, Washington, New York; Roll: M653_875; Page: 0; Image: 369. John Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 50 1809 Ireland Male Isabella Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 51 1808 Ireland Female William H Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 24 1835 New York Male James K Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 22 1837 New York Male Matilda Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 17 1842 New York Female John T Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 14 1845 New York Male Sarah A Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 12 1847 New York Female Isabella T Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 11 1848 New York Female Joseph G Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 8 1851 New York Male Margaret E Denniston Argyle, Washington, NY 6 1853 New York Female Year: 1870; Census Place: Salem, Washington, New York; Roll: M593_1111; Page: 497; Image: 340. John Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1810 Ireland White Male Isabella Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1808 Ireland White Female Matilda F Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1846 New York White Female Sarah A Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1848 New York White Female Joseph G Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1852 New York White Male Elisabeth Dennison Salem, Washington, NY abt 1860 New York White Female Year: 1880; Census Place: Salem, Washington, New York; Roll: T9_942; Family History Film: 1254942; Page: 412.2000; Enumeration District: 153; Image: 0827. 87/87 Dennison, Joseph w m 29 farm hand NY Ireland Ireland Luise w f 23 wife housekeeper NY VT VT Maud w f 3 daughter Vt Vt Ireland Clarance w m 2 son NY Vt Ireland (something's wrong there - perhaps someone else could read this?) Year: 1900; Census Place: Rupert, Bennington, Vermont; Roll: T623 1689; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 35. 28/30 Dennison, Clarance w m May 1878 22 m 1 NY NY NY Sarah wife w f Sept 1881 18 m 1 1/1 VT VT VT Lula M daughter w f Feb 1899 1 s NY NY VT Joseph G. Father w m Dec 1851 48 m 24 NY Scotland Scotland (where is Luise? -- hmm: 28/31 Dennison, William Head w m Aug 1880 19 s NY NY NY Louisa mother w f apr 1857 42 m 24 5/5 NY NY VT John E. Brother w m July 1883 19 s VT NY NY Lillian F Sister w f Oct 1890 9 s VT NY NY by 1910, Clarance is a hired man, living away from Sarah; Will is married to Daisy and living with her parents, Lewis B and Carrie Loveland. The 1920 has Jos living with John, as you noted. No sign of Louisa. However, see above -- John E is not the eldest son in this family. Both Clarence (who may have had a different mother) and William are older. Year: 1920; Census Place: Pawlet, Rutland, Vermont; Roll: T625_1874; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 122; Image: 828. Clarence is living in Bennington,Sarah and daughters Gladys T (15), Gertrude (12), Bertha (10), son Joseph (8), daughter Agnes (6), son Harold (2 1/2). Year: 1920; Census Place: Rupert, Bennington, Vermont; Roll: T625_1870; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 35; Image: 971. Perhaps some of this will help you. I concur that Joseph is from Ireland. So, perhaps a peek at the naturalization records for John and Isabella in New York would be in order. Good luck, Pat (in Tucson) |My gg grandfather, Joseph G. Dennison is listed in the 1870 Salem, |Washington Co., NY census with the people I believe are his |parents and |siblings. This census states that his parents were born in Ireland. | |The next census I've found him on is the 1920 Pawlet, Rutland |Co., VT census |living with his eldest son in which his parents are stated as |being from |Scotland. | |My question is: where do I go from here? Do I search the |Irish records to |verify his parentage? Which one is more likely to be accurate? | |It has taken me years to find my great grandfather's (John Elbert |Dennison )family.(it took me getting his WWI draft card) He left my |grandfather, my great grandmother and his newborn daughter in |1924 and no |one heard from him again. All I had was my grandfather's |fading memories. |What clinched it with the draft card was the physical |description and my |great grandmother's name as his next of kin. He had red hair. 8*) | |Sooo...does anyone have any suggestions? | | | | |In my opinion your ancestor's parents were from Ireland. I've |noticed this |discrepancy in my family. His daughter-in-law was probably |the one giving |the information when he was 70 and she just didn't know the |facts. Please note |the informant also says his "mother tongue" is "Scotch". |Since he was born |in New York, this is probably incorrect, too. Perhaps she |had heard him |speak Gaelic, which was also spoken in Ireland. I would |definitely go with |Ireland. | |