From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Tue Feb 14 08:45:56 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1EFjujb029181; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:45:56 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1EFjsUu005568 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:45:54 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1EDH4FI015014 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:17:04 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k1EDH4TQ015013 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 08:17:04 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k1E8xqFI014066 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:59:52 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k1EBSUau012379 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:28:30 -0700 X-Envelope-From: treviawbeverly@houston.rr.com Tue Feb 14 04:28:30 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1EBSUjb012370 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:28:30 -0700 Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.42]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1EBSS8X011492 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 04:28:29 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (cpe-24-175-91-92.houston.res.rr.com [24.175.91.92]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id k1EBSKRZ009870; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:28:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007001c6315a$22e57ac0$6401a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "Trevia W Beverly" To: "huggins huggins" , Cc: References: <20060214053855.16751.qmail@web51814.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Citing a location before it was a state? ++ Ports of Entry pre 1756 ++ Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:31:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Joe, your guy was not b. in Tolland, Tolland Co CT in 1756. Since Tolland Co was created on 10/13/1785 from Windham Co, that's technically where he was born. Windham Co was created 05/12/1728 from Hartford & New London counties. While CT did not become a state until 1788 (5th), it was an organized colony and had already organized towns by 1740 ... the towns remained basically the same and that's where the records are - note in Everton's "Handy Book" that in what is now Tolland Co, there are towns that were formed earlier ... Tolland in 1715. I may be wrong but I think the proper place of birth would be Tolland Twp, Windham Co CT However, in the search for records, Tolland now in Tolland Co would be the place - the town clerks have b, m, d & land records; Probate Judge has probate records; Clerk of Superior Court has the court records. RE your later question as to ports prior to 1756, you might check these out ... >From Boyer's series: Ship Passenger Lists - . National and New England (1600-1825) . New York and New Jersey (1600-1825) . Pennsylvania and Delaware (1641-1825) . The South (1538-1825) Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "huggins huggins" To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Citing a location before it was a state? > That's a good question - I'm looking forward to the > replies. > > I'm in a somewhat similar situation - a good > percentage of my maternal ancestors came from West > Virginia. The area they came from was actually > Virginia until 1863, when WV was formed. > > So if I'm trying to locate someone who used to be in > the part of VA that became WV, it gets confusing. I > haven't memorized all of the counties that seceded - > plus, some counties were renamed when WV was formed. > Ugh! > > dee > > --- Joe Price wrote: > > > How should one specify the location for an event > > when the event occurred > > before the location was a state? > > > > I have that Josiah Root was born in 1756 in Toland, > > Toland County, CT. > > According to Everton's Handybook Toland County was > > formed in 1785 and CT > > was not formed as a state until 1788. > > > > Is there a Tolland Township as well as city and > > county by that name? > > > > Joe in Idaho, the Gem State. > >