From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sun Feb 12 13:57:43 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1CKvhjb026174; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:57:43 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1CKvfIK014286 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:57:41 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k1CISvFI032034 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:28:57 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k1CISusp032033 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:28:56 -0500 Received: from admin.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k1CICrFI031952 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:12:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k1CKfRZe016600 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:41:27 -0700 X-Envelope-From: mscheffl@twcny.rr.com Sun Feb 12 13:41:27 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k1CKfRjb016591 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:41:27 -0700 Received: from ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.2.56]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1CKfMnb006237 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:41:22 -0700 Received: from 1070n (cpe-24-92-248-107.twcny.res.rr.com [24.92.248.107]) by ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id k1CKfI66026846; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:41:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008c01c63014$ac26c920$6801a8c0@1070n> From: "MScheffler" To: "Joe Price" , References: Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Citing a location before it was a state? Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:41:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Hi Joe, From the 3rd edition of the Red Book, published by Ancestry, Connecticut Colony began between 1633 and 1635 and merged with New Haven Colony in 1662. Tolland as a town was formed in 1715 and Tolland Comity was evidently formed form the parent county, Windham in 1785. CT formally abolished the counties in 1959 but county names are still used for US census statistics. This book does not say when CT officially became a State, but since most of the New England states were in existence long before the Rev. War the names we associate with these states would have been used a long time before they were officially states. Obviously the date we call a location by a particular name was not an exact process. I am sure most of us are not entirely consistent as to the way we enter locations. I tend to enter the location of an event the way I found it in the source of the information. Generally when I come across an unfamiliar town name, I tend to look up the county for the current town of that name. Technically it would be more correct to do research on what exactly was the original county for the town Occasionally I will enter the current name of the town -- then in parenthesis (formerly _____) if I know for sure it was called something different. You might be interested in Anamap at www.goldbug.com for a program that can help one to get these correct. You will probably learn way more than you want to As we are all aware, town names can be very misleading when the same town exists in two or more counties. It is good in this type of situation to somewhere in one's notes clarify exactly where the events of interest took place. I would enter your Josiah Root's location as Tolland, Tolland Co., CT but others may not do it this way. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Price" To: Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Citing a location before it was a state? > How should one specify the location for an event when the event occurred > before the location was a state? > > I have that Josiah Root was born in 1756 in Toland, Toland County, CT. > According to Everton's Handybook Toland County was formed in 1785 and CT > was not formed as a state until 1788. > > Is there a Tolland Township as well as city and county by that name? > > Joe in Idaho, the Gem State. >