From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Thu Feb 9 13:51:46 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k19KpkE0017543; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:51:46 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k19Kpk2l029141 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:51:46 -0700 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k19INBFI004973 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:23:12 -0500 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k19INBuY004972 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:23:11 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k19IEiFI004870 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:14:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k19Kh6RT005453 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:43:06 -0700 X-Envelope-From: Kith-n-Kin@cox.net Thu Feb 9 13:43:06 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k19Kh6E0005444 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:43:06 -0700 Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (fed1rmmtao10.cox.net [68.230.241.29]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k19Kh4Vn024340 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:43:04 -0700 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.155.47]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20060209204127.ZJAB20441.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@TOWER>; Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:41:27 -0500 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] Yarroch and "Cavil", Montana Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:42:56 -0700 Message-ID: <01ff01c62db9$6b7817b0$6401a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <200602091811.k19IBfcV032476@bw-10.mtpinos.com> X-Spam-Score: 3.617 (***) BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,URIBL_MP_RHSBL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Based on Karen's clues, I found the family in the 1930 -- spelled Yanoch. >From this I learned (did I already know this and forgot?) that you can use wildcards in township names as well as surnames and given names. So, Cavil became Cavil* and we had 'em, in Golden Valley County. And, working from Ryegate Cemetery, I determined (with GNIS maps http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=115:1:1548001949427361907 and Pam Rietsch, below) that at least Ryegate was in Yellowstone County before 1920. So, where is Cavill? GNIS has a "Cavill School", historical, in present day Golden Valley, but it no longer exists! Back to the drawing board. So, I went back to the 1930 census and selected some of the neighbors to see where they were in 1920. The direction seemed to be pointing to Sweet Grass County. Sure enough, when I got to the Andrew Erickson family, "next door" was: Year: 1920; Census Place: School District 47, Sweet Grass, Montana; Roll: T625_977; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 141; Image: 729. 50/53 Yanock, Joseph Head m w 51 m 1871 na 1876 Poland Poland Poland farmer Ada M wife f w 40 m Wisconsin Violet V daughter f w 17 s Wisconsin Poland/Ger Wisconsin Al[zona?] M daughter f w 14 s Wisconsin Poland/Ger Wisconsin Earl B son m w 9 S Wisconsin Poland/Ger Wisconsin John P[?] son m w 4 s Montana Poland/Ger Wisconsin Now, the above was my reading of the page. The Ancestry index had: Joseph Jayich Ady M Jayich Violet V Jayich Alzena M Jayich Earl R Jayich John P Jayich Not too sure anyone would have found them from there! But all's well that ends well. A peek at Pam Rietsch's great map at http://www.livgenmi.com/1895/MT/state.htm shows that the then Sweet Grass County was just west of then Yellowstone County. Hope no one minded me spelling this out, someone may find the process as helpful as the answer. Now, if we can get consensus on the probable spelling of the name in 1920, I'll be happy to alert Ancestry. Regards, Pat (in Tucson) |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen |Isaacson Leverich |Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:12 |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] Yarroch and "Cavil", Montana | | |I pulled up Yarroch at Linkpendium: | |http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/sur/surc-Y/surc-Yar/su |r-Yarroch/ | |Four links... | |The Find-a-Grave link is especially interesting: there are |four Yarrochs buried in Ryegate Cemetery, Golden Valley |County, Montana. And there's a Cavill district in Golden |Valley County -- the "Cavil" in the earlier query? | |One of them is probably the Joseph being sought: | |http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Yarroch&G |Rid=5223236& | |He was born in 1868, and died in 1941. | |The map from Ancestry shows the surname only? in Wisconsin in |1920. (And only a single family of them, at that.) | |Clicking on the RootsWeb SiteSearch link, there are two links |in Richland County, Wisconsin, one in Thompson's Dayton |Corners Cemetery, the other in the Richland County Death |index. There's a third link, to dead air. The working links |are about two Yarroch babies. In 1899, Joseph & Ada May |(Conkle) Yarroch lost a son. In 1904, Joseph & Ada May |(Conkle) Yarroch lost a daughter. Perhaps the Joseph of interest? | |The fourth Linkpendium link is to familysearch.org, with |Yarroch misspelled (on Linkpendium, will get that fixed) as |Yarrochy, but doing a Yarroch search even so. It finds Anna |Yarroch in the SSDI. She was born in 1889, died in 1974, got |her card in Wisconsin, and the death benefit was paid to New |Lisbon, Juneau, Wisconsin. | |Any chance Joseph went BACK to Wisconsin in 1920, before |settling for good and all in Montana? That would be consistent |with these clues. That, and Ancestry has some Yarroch family |in Wisconsin in 1920... Perhaps it's the Yarroch family you |seek. (A very unusual surname. Yaroch is much more common, FWTW.) | |Karen |karen@mtpinos.com |In the mountains of Southern California | |