From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 22 21:16:22 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7N3GMjb021292; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:16:22 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7N3GKnv007077 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:16:20 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k7N0aFFI014304 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:36:15 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k7N0aFK0014303 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:36:15 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k7MLREFI013941 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:27:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k7N078bY011759 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:07:08 -0600 X-Envelope-From: sdm.prowett@gmail.com Tue Aug 22 18:07:08 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7N078jb011750 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:07:08 -0600 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.192]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7N073eQ010797 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:07:04 -0600 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i1so1049083nzh for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:06:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=NH6s0XHd2bYkDSr9wFMQ/ZeaoQibFa1FQAPbQ7fIdTsQ8Qax0nq0p7naGPz/jhDhuPWfd61eUgirK66lDHYnojDDeNr2JTu6HC6FPF/mNQcnkYpTE3bnCHLnIAnejnfjBDdZzLgnFD/VdcEU7J9PSH4VYC7HRiZ8+5RFenH67Sc= Received: by 10.65.75.19 with SMTP id c19mr9354411qbl; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Yoda ( [64.146.135.196]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id a29sm953091qbd.2006.08.22.17.06.54; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003001c6c648$0bb27eb0$6601a8c0@Yoda> From: "Sondra Prowett" To: , References: <16756567.1156238285484.JavaMail.root@web30> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Finding Prussian/Polish surname records for the 1840's without a town name Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:06:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2905 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com A great many, I don't know if all, of the immigration records of Minnesota have microfilm copies and an index at the Iron Range Research Center: http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/scripts/runisa.dll?irrrb:searchresults You can try searching there. Was it 1900 or 1910 census that first lists naturalization information? I don't remember off the top of my head, *grin* I always feel blessed when it's there. :) Also, make sure the Johann or John Pusch you think isn't him, really isn't....I, in my ignorance and ignoring of occupations, discovered the census records for my M-I-L's 2g grandfather...she KNEW he was a carpenter and the only name left on his original passport from his travels as a tradesman in Switzerland was Ignazi...I have since deciphered a rubbed off Johann written at the top on the outside, but if you didn't know that's what it was, you couldn't tell I don't think. But that was AFTER I found him in the census, trying to grow wine as John. :) He tried many things in his life, just like most of us.... I always try and remember my shock when I discovered that my grandfather, Fred Fuecker, had worked for the King County Sheriff's office in the 1930's and he is listed as an officer in his mother's obituary....I knew him as career military and have MANY records from his career in the Army and the American Legion. :) I've since found him doing something different on each census...maybe the 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970 censuses will have him being more consistent, but I don't think so...in 1942 he was working for the telephone company in Seattle when he volunteered for WWII. Maybe the 50's and 60's will show the career I KNEW he was in. :) It's just a thought to ponder, and one you've probably already considered. Take care, S o n d r a ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:18 AM Subject: [ROOTS-L] Finding Prussian/Polish surname records for the 1840's without a town name > My grandfather Johann or John Pusch was born about 1841, perhaps in > Prussia, and immigrated, apparently alone, in about 1870 to Mankato, MN > USA. He may have been a stonemason. He apparently thought of himself as a > German and was probably brought up as a German Lutheran. His birth > records may be in a Lutheran church somewhere in Prussia. > > I have been unable to find any ship or immigration records and have no > idea of the port of entry. I only know that he arrived in Mankato, MN > before 1872. > > I have tried German language and other surname sites and all the other > search sites I could find but found very few Pusches listed anywhere and > none that seemed to fit what I think I know about his name and the time > and place of his birth. > > There was even another family of Pusches in Mankato, MN in the 1870's, > including another Johann, but they were apparently unrelated. > > To further complicate it, his surname may have been spelled Busch, Push or > Bush instead on Pusch and his given name may have also been spelled in > different ways. > > To identify him, I would need to find not only a similar name born at a > similar time but some tie in to occupation and immigration ideally to > Mankato, MN. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might proceed? > > > > Bruce >