From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Mon Aug 21 17:47:56 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7LNlujb027164; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:47:56 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7LNltPV028498 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:47:56 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k7LL7sFI009765 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:07:54 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k7LL7s0O009764 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:07:54 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k7LKmkFI009680 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:48:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k7LNSb30021786 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:28:37 -0600 X-Envelope-From: kaitysmom@peoplestel.net Mon Aug 21 17:28:37 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7LNSbjb021777 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:28:37 -0600 Received: from qsmtp4.america.net (qsmtp4.america.net [69.60.160.247]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7LNSW68016371 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:28:32 -0600 Received: from [65.183.106.108] (helo=MissyLaptop) by qsmtp4.america.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GFJC2-0006Zn-PU; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:28:30 -0400 Message-ID: <034201c6c579$81141710$6501a8c0@MissyLaptop> From: "Melissa Barker" To: "MScheffler" , References: <65d66f240608191730v2fb06a58m4f9fe393d44996ef@mail.gmail.com> <004e01c6c46b$b512f0e0$6601a8c0@TOWER> <65d66f240608201826i2dc57f25x4073f5db579bbf3@mail.gmail.com> <025c01c6c522$22bb54a0$6501a8c0@m1070n> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Uploading trees to Ancestry (was: Re:Family trees) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:28:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Dear Margaret, I agree totally with everything you said. I have been reading this list and other lists people complaining about what has happened with their trees when they get uploaded. All the trouble with Ancestry.com of which I am a subscriber. I am like you, I am a huge proponent of sharing information, but uploading your genealogy information and research should be a very rare event. I can't tell you how many times I have gone on a wild goose chase with information found on one of those incorrect trees. I don't do that anymore, I very rarely look at online trees and when I do, I am very skeptical. I know we live in the age of the internet and my generation is considered the "internet generation" and yes there are many great features that help us with our research, but I have found that the old fashioned way of research is the best. Getting your hands dirty by digging yourself. You can't go wrong with that. In Christ, Melissa Barker Genealogy Researcher/Family Historian RAOGK Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Uploading trees to Ancestry (was: Re:Family trees) > I may be a bit old fashioned and I do like online resources such as my > Godfrey and Ancestry subscriptions for census, town history, available > town records, etc.. > > However, I am not a proponent of doing ones tree entirely online and in > the process leaking bits and pieces of information that may have no basis > in fact. > > Personally I would suggest people keep their basic research in their > own genealogy program on their on hard drive. If and when one feels it is > accurate enough to post, then and ONLY then upload it to WorldConnect or > the Ancestry World Tree or some other site of your choosing. There is > enough speculative material out there and someone beginning their basic > search is not ready to share all until they proceed up the learning curve > a bit. > > Just think about all those people in the past that shared on the FTM > cds their "beginning" research and now have no way to take back the > mistakes. Yes we all make mistakes, but hopefully we make fewer as we > gain experience. > > Keeping our information at home in private means we can chose to export > only what we believe is ready to be shared and what we want others to see. > We should choose only nonliving people and can leave notes and sources in > or out, etc. > > The surname and regional lists are a good way to have back and forth > conversation on material of a more speculative nature. It also allows > feedback at times from several researchers. If you want to share more > personal information on living people later, the discussion can later be > taken off list. > > I am one of the biggest proponents of sharing, but I believe just as > strongly that before we share, we make every effort to be correct. When > we do share online, and we find mistakes in our databases, we should > REMOVE the database with the incorrect material and submit an update > rather than a new database of a different name. We should NOT leave the > old one with the mistakes for the next person to find.. > > I have not experimented with the new Ancestry feature where one sees > information and clicks to start a tree, then goes about online seeking to > find other information that one thinks useful and leaves it open for > others to add and subtract. IF I understand the concept, I see it as > problematic. > > We all need to start with the basics building a tree -- begin with > ourselves, add parents and siblings, grandparents, etc. one generation at > a time PROVING the parent-child links by vital records where at all > possible. We need to be METHODICAL adding small pieces of information that > come from what we believe reliable sources. > > Margaret Scheffler > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marilyn e brown" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Uploading trees to Ancestry (was: Re:Family trees) > > >> Well even if you keep it private they must be letting out enough for >> other >> researchers to find your information. I just got an email from Ancestry >> that >> someone was seeking to view my information concerning one ancestor. I >> would >> like to figure out how to contact this person without revealing too much >> about myself. Most of the information I have is on line if you know where >> to >> look. Although the individual being asked about I do have collateral >> information and he is tied into my family on at least two different >> lines. >> So now I have to decide if I am ready to share. > >> Marilyne > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 8/18/2006 > >