From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sun Aug 20 01:45:41 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7K7jfjb024030; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:45:41 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7K7jTBR031718 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:45:35 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k7K4x5FI021855 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:59:05 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k7K4x5Ci021854 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:59:05 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k7JLqEFI021086 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:52:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k7K0Vvbx030999 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:31:57 -0600 X-Envelope-From: marilyneb@gmail.com Sat Aug 19 18:31:57 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k7K0Vvjb030988 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:31:57 -0600 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k7K0VkHR019483 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:31:49 -0600 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1313990uge for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:31:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=l1vi3G3BoAMB6uj7WHrqcReLvu2mq0pRcLuk6myZn8CVFK+YCncxiweMza6A9tnVFVbnYsm0/K3ORwWr6eKI5ze1O8JebICx7tTJOZ3M7NBAtzkZgaF3eh85eXDCI9QZyoQt3PWvVJWURfwIfbdN3t05+OFF7KvCuxvmlYohiZo= Received: by 10.67.101.10 with SMTP id d10mr2638326ugm; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.236.13 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <65d66f240608191730v2fb06a58m4f9fe393d44996ef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:30:03 -0500 From: "marilyn e brown" To: Kith-n-Kin Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Uploading trees to Ancestry (was: Re:Family trees) Cc: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com In-Reply-To: <002701c6c3e1$d291db70$6601a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed References: <002701c6c3e1$d291db70$6601a8c0@TOWER> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com I went to check it out and all I could find was your old data. I even checked under edit the personal information to see if the corrected birthdate might be listed as an option and it isn't. I thought what is they just merged the information. I do have a question. If we are entering information through create your own tree; is this somehow referenced in searches but shown as private. I have been doing this but never click to share as I don't feel I have enough documentation. Basically census records and other records available through Ancestry. I was under the impression you had to create a gedcom for the information to show online. Am I stupid or having a senior moment. Marilyne On 8/19/06, Kith-n-Kin wrote: > > Update on Ancestry.com and the trees. If you don't have a sub to Ancestry, > most of this is moot: > > I don't think you can any longer upload a tree to Ancestry World Tree > (AWT) from the Ancestry site. I > think we have "personal member trees" and "public member trees". The > public trees are apparently > incorporated in to OneWorldTree (OWT) *search engine*. The Personal member > trees (private) are not. But, > you can still send messages to the uploader. > > I went to upload a tree a few minutes ago. I was on the page: > > "My Ancestry" > > The tree uploaded to "My Trees" -- as a "public" tree. It did not upload > to AWT, and I couldn't find any > way to do so (except, of course, to use RootsWeb, my next project). > > There are a couple of problems with this, but the most significant one was > related to the reason I did > this to start with. "I" have an old AWT tree which is WRONG (I'm so much > smarter now than I used to be > ) up on AWT. I didn't put it there, and can only assume it was uploaded > from the old CDs we contributed > to for Family Tree Maker, some ten years ago. It has no "contact" and no > number or other identifying > flags. I'm asking to have it removed, but haven't heard back yet. > > Based on the conversation on this list which dealt with "if you can't > change what's there, at least make > sure you have the correct information out there", I have split my database > (to make it easier to handle), > and created family group and generation specific GEDCOMs (not including > "living" anyone), with the intent > of publishing them to Ancestry/Rootsweb. > > I am not sure the tree I've put up is really "public" as I am me and > can access it anyway. It is > supposed to show up on One World Tree. If someone could look up Harriet > Winfrey Gray, I'd appreciate it. > If you find her with a death date of 1994, that's the "old" gedcom. If you > find 18 OCT 1994, that is what > I uploaded as "public" this morning. This is all, frankly, confusing to > me. > > Second problem is that all my carefully crafted notes on "why I think > blah, blah" are not appearing. The > sources are, not the conclusions. I've sent a query to Ancestry on this. > > Point is, gang, I think it's a whole new world out there on these trees. > We have recently had a couple of > comments on this list that I, for one, didn't understand. They had to do > with such things as "why did > someone put their tree up if they didn't want to share it. > > PERSONAL TREES -- If you want to operate your research base on Ancestry, > not to share, but just for > convenience (say you're going to Library of Virginia, and don't want to > take your own laptop), and put up > a tree to do it with, sometimes a query will result in a "hit" that says > "personal trees". You can see the > specific data on a person "John Smith, b 1812, Virginia", but not his > folks, the source for the > information, or anything else. YOU CAN, however, send a query to the > "owner" to see if s/he is interested > in collaborating. Sondra was nice enough to explain to us why sometimes > these things take time. Another > reason may be that the person is just "playing" with some ideas, and > doesn't even intend to do anything > further. May never look again. We all know the story of the orphan AWTs, I > suspect we will have the same > thing here. Or, may just not be at a point of being ready to collaborate. > > PUBLIC TREES, which can be viewed from OWT, behave much like the AWT > trees, and you can send queries > (without knowing the uploader's name) about the tree. Not the same as > post-ems and such. The Private > Trees do not integrate with OWT, but will crop up in a separate category > on a search. Obviously doesn't > happen often, or we would have already had this discussion . > > I hope I haven't further confused the issue. Now, I'm going over to > WorldConnect, upload the same tree, > and see if my notes are there . > > Pat (in Tucson) > > > > > >