From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Tue Aug 8 11:19:58 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k78HJwjb025421; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:19:58 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k78HJqhp011253 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:19:52 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k78EebFI016798 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:40:37 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k78Eeb1n016797 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:40:37 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k78D40FI016527 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:04:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k78Fh4WL024308 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:43:04 -0600 X-Envelope-From: Kith-n-Kin@cox.net Tue Aug 8 09:43:04 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k78Fh4jb024299 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:43:04 -0600 Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (fed1rmmtao02.cox.net [68.230.241.37]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k78FgxTY000848 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:43:02 -0600 Received: from TOWER ([68.0.155.47]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with ESMTP id <20060808154255.EIS12581.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@TOWER>; Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:42:55 -0400 From: "Kith-n-Kin" To: "'Ralph Scheffler'" , Subject: RE: [ROOTS-L] KUNKLE search Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 08:42:43 -0700 Message-ID: <003101c6bb01$4db70800$6601a8c0@TOWER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 In-Reply-To: <002401c6ba7f$72c9f990$6400a8c0@Maincomputer> Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by admin.rootsweb.com id k78Fh4jb024299 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Ralph When I find a problem like this, I first try to find the family in the 1900, 1910, and 1920 censuses, as they give the most immigration information, and the 1900 has month and year for birth. I should caution you that I find the year of birth off by a year as often as not. I think some of the enumerators took a shortcut, as in "what month were you born?" and "how old are you", rather than "what month and year were you born." I found a family mostly fitting the description in 1900 and 1910, but not in 1920: Year: 1900; Census Place: Nanticoke, Luzerne, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1433; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 96. 128 West Broad Street 1-4/111 Kunkle John head w m June 1845 54 m 25 Germany GER GER, immigrated 1883, in US 17 years, Naturalized, day laborer Minnie wife w f Mar 1855 45 m 25 12/8 Germany GER GER 1883 17 Otilla daughter w f mar 1879 21 s Germany GER GER 1883 17 Edward son w m 1883 16 s PA GER GER Door tender Eugene son w m Oct 1885 14 S PA GER GER slate picker Laura Daughter w f Dec 1887 12 s PA GER GER at school Edith dau w f Dec 1889 10 s PA GER GER at school Lydia daughter w f July 1892 7 s PA GER GER at school 1910 same information, except Minnie has borne 8 children, 8 of whom are living, and the date of immigration is 1890. Probably got this wrong, and the date of naturalization was 1890. John does something in a coal mine,Laura is a telephone operator for the Telephone Co, Edith and Lydia are laundresses. I tried Michigan for the 1920, but didn't find them. Perhaps someone else will have better luck. If we knew who Otilla married, we might find the information through her. Of course this wasn't the only Kunkle family, Pat (in Tucson) |-----Original Message----- |From: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com |[mailto:roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Scheffler |Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 17:13 |To: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com |Subject: [ROOTS-L] KUNKLE search | | |Need help in finding exact dates of birth for John and |Wilhemina KUNKLE , b.1845 and 1851 respectively. They lived in |Nanicoke, Pa, but don't have date of immigration from Germany, |or passenger ship listing. They both died in Detroit, MI. in |1943 and 1923 respectively. | |Ralph | |http://www.carvingsbyralph.com | |