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Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Renaut in Ny, NJ and PA
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Hi Theresa,

I don't know anything about your Renaut family, but I thought I should 
mention there's a very famous "Renault Winery" in NJ. It's in Egg Harbor 
(outside of Atlantic City) & I think it's been there since the mid 1800's. 
It may even be the oldest running winery in the US. I'm sure it's an 
historical landmark of NJ. It also has a golf course now & more. (One of my 
sister's had her wedding reception at the restaurant there).

Since you mentioned NJ, the time frame being close & the name being similar, 
I thought it was worth the mention. Sorry I don't have information on your 
family. Good luck on your search.

Suzy

~~~May your journey be as exciting as your destination...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P. Theresa Pawlowski" <denchief@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: [ROOTS-L] Renaut in Ny, NJ and PA


>I am researching a Renaut family that was in NY in 1880 and some members of
> which moved to NJ and Ohio in succeeding generations.
>
> I am aware that there were Renauts in PA long before this family emerged 
> in
> NY.  I am trying to discover if there is any connection at all between the
> two families, and also if I can connect with any of the people from the NY
> line.
>
> This is a long and twisted tale, and I am not sure how much general
> interest it is, but trying to put it as simply as possible...
>
> There was a Jean Joseph Victor Renaut who married a Harriet or Henriette
> Theurret in Manhattan.  The wife was supposedly from the Meurthe region of
> France.  The husband may have been from Paris, and they may have come in
> through Canada.  I have  found no immigration data.  I believe this would
> have been in the early 1860's.  I have what might be an 1860 census entry
> for them, but there is no way to prove it I can think of. Neither was born
> in the US. I have some naturalization info for JJV, and a date of death 
> for
> his wife.
>
> They seem to have started in Manhattan in what is now SoHo, and moved
> gradually north.  In the 1870 census they are still down fairly far, by
> 1880 they are on Thompson street, a short walk to Washington Square Park.
> In 1880 the wife died, and I have details about this, and the family seems
> to have broken up.  There may be a connection to a family named Le Blanc,
> or Blanc.
>
> They had five children.  One I have seen referred to as John Augustine in
> Freeman's bank records.  (He is listed as white, so apparently not all
> depositors were Black) One, Paul, moved to Jersey City and ultimately that
> line ended up in Ohio.  The third son I am not sure of.  If this is my
> family, and I am within a hair of solid proof that it is, then I know what
> happened to the daughter, Clementine, and the youngest son, Edward.
>
> I know that some of these names repeat in the PA Renauts, but I don't know
> if that is just because they were popular French names.  I don't know if
> the family was Catholic or Protestant - I have been told the PA Renauts
> were Protestant.
>
> I have seen this name misspelled in many ways, but family members seem to
> have been consistent in spelling it Renaut.
>
> I would love to hear from anyone who might know about these people.
>
> Theresa Pawlowski
>
>
> To doubt is to destroy. To believe is to create. I believe, I believe, I
> believe.
> - Ray Bradbury
>
> 

