From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Thu Aug 3 11:31:55 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k73HVtjb029094; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:31:55 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k73HVrjb025605 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:31:53 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k73EqvFI007732 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:52:57 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k73EqvpU007731 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:52:57 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k73BABFI007261 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:10:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k73Dmuig004126 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:48:56 -0600 X-Envelope-From: sdepuy@mhcable.com Thu Aug 3 07:48:55 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k73Dmtjb004117 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:48:55 -0600 Received: from smtp-gw.mhcable.com (smtp-gw.mhcable.com [24.105.198.42]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k73DmqbH019536 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:48:52 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.mhcable.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF73BE7214 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.mhcable.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (VaMailArmor-2.0.1.16) id 30229-6AD856D3; Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:16:55 -0400 Received: from spartand (24-105-206-167.cm.mhcable.com [24.105.206.167]) by outgoing1.mhcable.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D4DDE7241 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101c6b6ff$177ef5f0$6501a8c0@spartand> From: "Sharon De Puy" To: References: <200608031000.k73A0SC3032628@lists5.rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:16:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira MailArmor (version: 2.0.1.16; VAE: 6.28.0.18; VDF: 6.28.0.106; host: smtp.mhcable.com) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: NYS Vital Records The following is from the Administrative Rules on the back of the form for ordering birth, marriage and death certificates: "No information shall be released from a record of birth unless the record has been on file for at least 75 years and the person to whom the record relates is known to the applicant to be deceased. No information shall be released from a record of death unless the record has been on file for at least 50 years. No information shall be released from a record of marriage unless the record has been on file for at least 50 years and the parties to the marriage are known to the applicant to be deceased." I am fortunate enough to live close to Albany and so can go and look through the index for my own records. I recently ordered a death certificate for my great-great grandfather and it arrived in less than two weeks and had the cause of death on it. The short time of delivery is because I actually ordered and paid for it while I was at the Archives. I was told a few months ago by one local vital records official that I could order and obtain a death certificate for another person if I had written, signed permission from that person to do so. I can't remember if she said that the permission had to be notarized. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- > X-Message: #3 > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:53:00 -0400 > From: "MScheffler" > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] william g fischer and frederick fisher > > Hi Ann, > > The reason you are not finding vital records information online for New > York State is because they not available. NYS is very protective of its > formal vital records. > > There are vital records indexes for the New York State available in > Albany at the NYS state library and public libraries in Rochester, > Syracuse, > and I believe Buffalo. I believe the cut off for the death indexes is > 1940 > but I believe it is earlier for births (not sure of the year). Some one > else > may weigh in on the dates and any other locations. > > If someone locates possibilities for vital records in the indexes which > start about 1881, then you need to fill out a form and pay $22 per record, > even if they do not find what you request. It generally is quicker to > order > from the location where the people lived rather than from Albany where > they > wait may be as long as a year. Records for genealogical purposes will be > stamped thus, and I believe that now the causes of death may be blocked > out. > > You might want to call the Buffalo and Erie Co. public library. They > likely have a list of researchers who might not charge too much to do some > vital records index searchers for you. These can be time consuming. Who > knows they may even know of volunteers. There also is an Erie Co. > Historical > Society which may do some research for a reasonable fee. > > The phone number for the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library I have > from a 1995 publication is 716-858-7103 The address is Lafayette Square, > Buffalo, NY 12403. The address for the Erie County Historian in 1995 was > 25 > Nottingham Terrace, Buffalo, NY 14216. They do list town historians, but > my > guess is that the list may be out of date. This url should work: > http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-historians.html > > This was in the list for Newstead, NY: > Newstead, Town of, Town Historian > John J. Eckerson > 57 John St. > Akron, NY 14001 > (716) 542-2418 > > Unfortunately queries do not always result in people who can answer all > one's questions and one must go directly to the location where the people > lived and do the looking in person, or hire someone familiar with the > local > records to do some sleuthing. Frustrating I know, as I am having a > similar > problem with a couple families I am researching. Queries don't seem to > get > to anyone with information, and the local records I looked for are sparse > or > non existent. > > I did want everyone to know, however, that NYS does have vital records > indexes which can guide one to the vital records they need to purchase. > Anyone should make sure to copy the certificate number carefully so that > you > make sure to get the document you want. > > Margaret Scheffler >