From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Wed Aug 2 10:50:17 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k72GoHjb011304; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:50:17 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k72GoCNi024690 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:50:12 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k72EBJFI004247 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:11:19 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k72EBJHc004246 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:11:19 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k72DEOFI004085 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:14:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k72Fr5RM003068 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:53:05 -0600 X-Envelope-From: mscheffl@twcny.rr.com Wed Aug 2 09:53:05 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k72Fr5jb003059 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:53:05 -0600 Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.2.57]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k72Fr3YI014363 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 09:53:04 -0600 Received: from m1070n (cpe-69-201-76-92.twcny.res.rr.com [69.201.76.92]) by ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k72Fr2Vj012917 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <010901c6b64b$bb2b5720$6501a8c0@m1070n> From: "MScheffler" To: References: <002301c6b640$71f9db40$a65b6fcc@donannd> Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] william g fischer and frederick fisher Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:53:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Hi Ann, The reason you are not finding vital records information online for New York State is because they not available. NYS is very protective of its formal vital records. There are vital records indexes for the New York State available in Albany at the NYS state library and public libraries in Rochester, Syracuse, and I believe Buffalo. I believe the cut off for the death indexes is 1940 but I believe it is earlier for births (not sure of the year). Some one else may weigh in on the dates and any other locations. If someone locates possibilities for vital records in the indexes which start about 1881, then you need to fill out a form and pay $22 per record, even if they do not find what you request. It generally is quicker to order from the location where the people lived rather than from Albany where they wait may be as long as a year. Records for genealogical purposes will be stamped thus, and I believe that now the causes of death may be blocked out. You might want to call the Buffalo and Erie Co. public library. They likely have a list of researchers who might not charge too much to do some vital records index searchers for you. These can be time consuming. Who knows they may even know of volunteers. There also is an Erie Co. Historical Society which may do some research for a reasonable fee. The phone number for the Buffalo and Erie County Public Library I have from a 1995 publication is 716-858-7103 The address is Lafayette Square, Buffalo, NY 12403. The address for the Erie County Historian in 1995 was 25 Nottingham Terrace, Buffalo, NY 14216. They do list town historians, but my guess is that the list may be out of date. This url should work: http://members.tripod.com/~wnyroots/index-historians.html This was in the list for Newstead, NY: Newstead, Town of, Town Historian John J. Eckerson 57 John St. Akron, NY 14001 (716) 542-2418 Unfortunately queries do not always result in people who can answer all one's questions and one must go directly to the location where the people lived and do the looking in person, or hire someone familiar with the local records to do some sleuthing. Frustrating I know, as I am having a similar problem with a couple families I am researching. Queries don't seem to get to anyone with information, and the local records I looked for are sparse or non existent. I did want everyone to know, however, that NYS does have vital records indexes which can guide one to the vital records they need to purchase. Anyone should make sure to copy the certificate number carefully so that you make sure to get the document you want. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don and Ann Derner" > looking for information on the 1930 census newstead ny for William g > fischer born in 1832 in prussia germay, he married Charlotte, maiden name > unknown she was boen oct 1839 in gemany and they emigrated he in 1849 and > she in 1857,( have no immgration records yet) ....... snipped.... see > the original posting which has details