From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Wed Apr 19 21:34:02 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3K3Y2jb012324; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:34:02 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3K3Xwcv026255 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:33:59 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3K11IFI004656 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:01:18 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k3K11IwA004655 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:01:18 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k3JIWUFI003928 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:32:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k3JL4xxv012330 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:59 -0600 X-Envelope-From: mscheffl@twcny.rr.com Wed Apr 19 15:04:59 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3JL4xjb012321 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:59 -0600 Received: from ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com [24.24.2.55]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3JL4thJ008927 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:04:58 -0600 Received: from m1070n (cpe-24-92-248-107.twcny.res.rr.com [24.92.248.107]) by ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id k3JL4s34024803; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <029101c663f4$e812e400$6601a8c0@m1070n> From: "MScheffler" To: "rebecca hoover" , References: Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] genealogy programs,your soulution to the problem below,im getting mad Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 17:04:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Hi Rebecca, I doubt that most genealogy programs will print out everyone in your database by selecting one special type of report. Many genealogy books are DESCENDANT reports/books that start with the earliest known ancestor of a particular branch and come forward to the youngest generations. As with the ancestor books these are mostly the direct line and any spouses, etc. the program printouts allow. The "extras" line information on the spouses families will not show up in the report. I personally like Ancestor reports best for sharing with family. Say -- for example -- you want a "book for grandchild Joe". In my program you would make an ANCESTOR REPORT beginning with Joe, including the siblings, spouses, etc., i.e. everything the program allows. You will then end up with a document which goes through the various generations one by one from the most recent to the oldest. But as above there will be some people who will not print out because they are not closely enough related to the direct line. After you print out the main ancestral report, you can then create pedigree charts, etc to put with this computer generated book to help people navigate the book as it is not always easy to picture just how the generations look as you are reading a document of this sort. To get the most appropriate information for each family member, you will likely want to individualize the starting person. When doing a special indexed book for my mother where I wanted to start with her children and have both parental lines in the ANCESTOR BOOK, I created a fictitious person called "the Children of George and Katherine Sutherland". I put in the general note paragraph everything thing I want to print out in that first paragraph. It worked really well -- all her children with spouses and their children could be included, then the report went back through both lines (maternal and paternal) to the earliest ancestors some 25 generations back. So in this instance the "starting person" for the report was this collective statement about all five children. Since the book turned out to be some 600 pages, I made series of pedigree charts to help people navigate certain parts of the tree. You can envision, I am sure how to make different types of reports or chapters, that will include some of the information that does not go in basic computer generated ancestor and descendant reports I described. For example one document may have Wilkey section, Martin section, Smith section, etc., with a few others besides. You may have trouble getting every one in your whole database this way and you may have some duplication. Hope this helps a little. Tailoring the reports to the recipient may help to get documents that do most of what you want. You could simply do an ancestor or descendant book and then provide on cd the entire database for people to find what did not go in the printout should you believe they want everything. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "rebecca hoover" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: [ROOTS-L] genealogy programs,your soulution to the problem below,im getting mad >i use paf, and have used others, and i think ive approached this a long >time ago, not sure, > BUT, i want to print out my info in story book form for my children and > granchildren, > > in paf, useing microsoft 95 or 98 ,dont remember which,used to allow you > to go and checkmark everybody in the database and than print them out, > paf 5 does not unless im missing something, > > BUT the programs are not getting all the people, and there are no unlinked > people in the database, > and they do all belong in one way or another to the tree,but all branches > are not fully being accounted for, some people are being left out,when > the file is previewed, > > now my own file is not as large as some,but it is not small, over 20.000 > people,and they do belong and are linked, to my tree, at this rate, i have > a huge problem. > > im doing a friends and hers is 645 people and notes, programs are not > getting all the people, > like she has a martin line of 75 people surname martin. 25 are being > accounted for by paf and another, her tree is wilkey, > thank you rebecca >