From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Sat Apr 15 21:13:01 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3G3D1jb003085; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:13:01 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3G3CvcH008959 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:12:57 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3G0eVFI006659 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:40:31 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k3G0eVTq006658 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:40:31 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k3FJauFI005958 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:36:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k3FM9BFE012692 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:09:11 -0600 X-Envelope-From: JYoung6180@aol.com Sat Apr 15 16:09:11 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3FM9Bjb012681 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:09:11 -0600 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3FM99HT011959 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:09:10 -0600 Received: from JYoung6180@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id e.301.386df02 (29678) for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: JYoung6180@aol.com Message-ID: <301.386df02.3172c8fb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:08:59 EDT To: ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5021 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTS-L] Re: SS #'s To Christie Trapp: One time, my husband and I were talking about our SS cards and when we received them. He said he applied for his at the Walla Walla Post Office and got it in 1942. As I said, he farmed with his father and never lived or worked in California. In 1952, he had taken a trip with a buddy back to Detroit, MI, where his buddy was going to pick up a new car. They drove down through the eastern states to New Orleans and across the southern states, went into California to visit a couple who owned part of the land he and his father farmed. He said that that was the first time he had been in California and he really wasn't too impressed with it. I have known him since 1951. We were married in 1954. His buddy, who is still living, verifies that my husband has never lived or worked in California and he's known him since 1945, when the fellow first worked for my father-in-law on the farm. My husband and his buddy were 19 when they first met, both born in 1926! . I am in the process of sending for his original application. I doubt very much that there were two men by the same name! Possible, but not very probable! Mary ---- Mary- One more comment on this...I think I found your husband on the SSDI based upon the info you gave above and the GROUP number of the SS card listed for him is "54." The group numbers are issued sequentially starting with 01, 03, 05, 07, 09, 10, 12, 14, 16, etc. A card with the group number of 54 would not have been issued in 1942. I don't know all that much about how many cards were issued in California but I did a quick scan of the SSDI for people born in 1930 (a bit later than your husband) who were issued SS cards in CA. The group numbers are all between 32-38--and the card holders most likely obtained these cards when they first went for a job--so I'd estimate sometime in their late teens--probably about 1958. So as of that time CA wasn't issuing cards with a group number of 54 yet. They probably didn't do so until the 1960s or later. Since your husband worked on his father's farm there is a very good chance he didn't apply for a SS card until much later in life when he needed it for ID or tax purposes. Usually a farmer in the 1940s wouldn't have been reporting farm wages paid to family members nor would he have been paying SS taxes on those wages. Joan