From roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Tue Apr 11 08:51:50 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3BEpojb015738; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:50 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l.rootsweb.com [66.43.16.22]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3BEpoMF010338 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:51:50 -0600 Received: from roots-l.rootsweb.com (roots-l [127.0.0.1]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k3BCJeFI020022 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:19:40 -0400 Received: (from roots-in@localhost) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id k3BCJeZ3020021 for roots-approved@rootsweb.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:19:40 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.27.41]) by roots-l.rootsweb.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id k3B1vrFI018427 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:57:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id k3B4ToOl009720 for roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:29:50 -0600 X-Envelope-From: johnberryman@charter.net Mon Apr 10 22:29:50 2006 Received: from mail.rootsweb.com (mail.rootsweb.com [192.168.65.34]) by admin.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k3B4Tojb009709 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:29:50 -0600 Received: from mxsf10.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf10.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.210]) by mail.rootsweb.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3B4TnEl005695 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:29:50 -0600 Received: from mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.131]) by mxsf10.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k3B4Ths9019845 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:29:43 -0400 Received: from 66-168-49-52.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com (HELO [66.168.49.52]) ([66.168.49.52]) by mxip01a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2006 00:29:43 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.04,109,1144036800"; d="scan'208"; a="2035273785:sNHT45752384" Message-ID: <443B3036.30808@charter.net> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:27:34 -0500 From: John Berryman User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JP & MC Mizzi CC: ROOTS-M@rootsweb.com References: <001901c65b52$37398440$9a5b6fcc@donannd> <032901c65b70$1bfd7ce0$10ac4b0c@host> <44398FE0.7000301@charter.net> <005b01c65cf6$e38963a0$2b238795@mizzi> In-Reply-To: <005b01c65cf6$e38963a0$2b238795@mizzi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 192.168.65.34 Subject: [ROOTS-L] Additional thoughts Sender: roots-in@roots-l.rootsweb.com Something that I forgot to mention before was sent to me by email privately today. It came from one of several people with vision problems who thanked me for my comments today. What the sender pointed out is that often people with other problems like arthritis or carpel tunnel have problems using the shift key. I'm not going to name the people who wrote to thank me but there were several. Most of them had some form of disability and they welcome messages in all capital letters. I'm having a bit of a problem with arthritis myself. If it keeps getting worse I may one day find it hard to use that shift key. *sigh* I'm getting older but it beats the alternative big time. :) My point is that we don't need to look for things to find fault with each other about. When I see all capital letters I assume that the sender has some disability not that they are intentionally being rude or anything bad. I'm not here to correct spelling or grammar. I'm hear to learn, get help and give help when I'm able to. In any event if someone questions another person on this list it would be far..................... more appropriate to write to them privately and politely ask why they used all capital letters ask about or whatever the concern might be. I know that I don't like feeling like I've been given a talking to in public. I'm sure that most people welcome good advise, given in private. I don't have time to look for mistakes others make. I make too darn many myself. :) Please lets just treat each other like we would want to be treated and help when we can. :) John JP & MC Mizzi wrote: > Good on you John! One of my eyes has limited vision also, so can > understand how these near blind and older folks use the caps for > messages. I am not offended by this...in fact I can read it a lot better > (:-) > > Good wishes, > Mary in a flooding Nth Queensland with 10 inches or 258 mls since > yesterday. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Berryman" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] LOOK-UP PLEASE > > >> I've taught people who are legally blind to use computers. Using all >> capital letters is common among the blind, elderly, those with vision >> problems, and it's "not intended to be rude". People with vision >> problems also tend to send the same messages as the lack the >> confidence that those of us with good vision have. Please consider >> how you would like to be treated if you had a disability before you >> chastise others. >> >> The goal here should be to help each other when we can. We all have >> flaws and make mistakes, myself included. Someday God willing all of >> us will be old and perhaps our vision will not be as good as it is >> today. Being considerate shows class! >> >> John in WI