>From: ac331@freenet.HSC.Colorado.EDU (JAY HALL) In the second half of 1993 there were several requests for personal comments on commercial services and their value to genealogists posted to ROOTS-L. Rather than post all of the responses "raw", here is a summary of information about commercial services from: 1) Responses to those queries on ROOTS-L, 2) Comments read or heard over the past year or so in various places, and 3) Personal observations. Please note: I do not represent these services, nor do I endorse any of them. This file is intended only as a starting point, and you are encouraged to contact these services directly for more complete information, especially on current prices and services. GEnie: There is a HUGE genealogy area, organized into maybe 1,000 different categories and topics covering geographic areas, religious and ethnic groups, single and multiple surnames, companies, projects, etc. However, usage has fallen off quite a bit since the change in the basic monthly rate from $5 to $9 in July 1993. Even so, some areas persist with heavy activity, and the addition of "free" Internet mail has drawn or kept some people. 10 people used their GEnie Internet connection to subscribe to ROOTS-L as of October 1993. According to the Jan 1994 _Wired_ magazine, Genie's membership was 250,000-400,000. CompuServe: Again, a change in fees has caused some migration from this service. It may have fewer local numbers then GEnie, but this may just be a matter of personal perception. There is some feeling that it's hard to use. Even so, there seems to be a lot of activity in the genealogy areas. Internet mail is available, and 8 people used their CompuServe account to subscribe to ROOTS-L as of October 1993. _Wired_ Jan 1994 gives Compuserve 1,500,000 subscribers. Prodigy: Talk about out-migration! Virtually every mention of Prodigy I've seen in the last few months starts off with the number of people leaving. Message volume appears to be down dramatically, and messages are kept for only a short time (possibly 7 days to 1 month, contrast with GEnie, where they seem to be kept forever). Ease of use and value to other members of the family (games, shopping, e-mail) keep some on the service. As of October 1993 there is no one subscribing to ROOTS-L via Prodigy. _Wired_ Jan 1994 says Prodigy had 2 million members. America On-Line: A growing service with a graphical interface (like Prodigy). Like GEnie and CompuServe, AOL has "live" (or "chat") sessions for a real-time exchange of ideas, and is considered cheaper than Prodigy. Message areas are heavily used, and appear to be growing rapidly. AOL offers a free connection kit (special comm software is required), with some free introductory connect time. 4 ROOTS-L subscribers did so via AOL in October 1993. _Wired_ Jan 1994 says 400,000 people were online with AOL. Delphi: Apparently growing rapidly, especially popular because it offers full Internet access (e-mail, ftp, telnet, usenet news, etc.). Frankly, if I didn't already have several other Internet accesses, I'd probably be using Delphi myself. Has a new general genealogy forum as well as special-interest genmealogy forums, and is gaining devotees. 37 Delphi users used its e-mail services to subscribe to ROOTS-L in October 1993. Currently, Delphi is offering a free 5 hour introduction. Standard subscription fees are $10/4 hours in a calendar month, and $20/20 hours online in a calendar month (no carryover for unused time). Internet access (telnet and ftp) is an additional $3/month. Members note that there are extra charges for storage. _Wired_ Jan 1994 said 60,000 - 100,000 people were on Delphi. Digital Express Group: Commercial vendor in the Washington, D.C. area. Full Internet access is about $200/year (in 1993) with a $20 signup fee, for 6 hours/day. After 6 hours/day it's $1/ hour. 5 megabytes of storage is included, with a surcharge of $1/month/megabyte above the limit of 5. Netcom: Commercial service. $17.50/month unlimited full Internet access. Texas Metronet: Commercial service based in Dallas, Texas. Used by several ROOTS-L subscribers. Offers varying levels of Internet access at differing prices. $20/month buys full Internet access with no time limit and 2 megabytes of storage. MountainNet: Commercial service in Morgantown, West Virginia. A flat fee of $25/month gets Internet access with no time charges. The WELL: Formerly a very large BBS in the San Francisco Bay Area that has become a commercial service on a national scale. Charges are $15/month, with a usage charge of $2/hour, billed by the minute. Full Internet access. The World: Similar to the Well, operating out of Boston. Sorry, I don't have any specifics on pricing, but assume it is about the same as the Well. Infochi Systems: Commercial system in Chicago. Full Internet access for $250/year. Freenets: Not strictly commercial, freenets are sponsored by community-based organizations (often hosted by colleges or universities), and are generally free to subscribers, who do not necessarily have to reside in the area. Freenets offer both local and Internet mail, as well as community information and access to some databases of general information. Several freenets support genealogy Special Interest Groups, a trend that seems to be gaining momentum, with calendars of local events, local genealogy queries, and access to either ROOTS-L or the soc.roots newsgroup. 50 ROOTS-L subscribers did so through their freenet mailboxes in October 1993. Some of the freenet systems available at the end of 1993: Cleveland Freenet (OH) Denver Freenet (CO) Traverse City Freenet (MI) Hawaii FYI (HI) CapAccess (DC) Vaasa Freeport (Finland) Big Sky Telegraph (MT) Buffalo Freenet (NY) Columbia Online Information Network (MO) Heartland Freenet (IL) Lorain County Freenet (OH) Medina County Freenet (OH) National Capital Freenet (Canada) Tallahassee Freenet (FL) TriState Online (OH) Victoria Freenet (Canada) Wellington CityNet (New Zealand) Youngstown Freenet (OH) Toledo Freenet (OH) MCI Mail and AT&T Mail: These companies offer e-mail accounts with toll free (800) access for about $3/month. Incoming mail for an ATT box is free, but outgoing mail is charged by the kilobyte, heavily loaded on the first 3 to 5 K (MCI is similar). 7 people subscribed to ROOTS-L using one of these two services in October 1993. Military Accounts: Military accounts are granted to both military personnel and civilians depending on their need to access military computers. In some cases, a military mailbox (.mil) may be used by a civilian who doesn't even work on the military base referred to. 37 people subscribed to ROOTS-L via a military mailbox in October 1993, about equally split between Army, Navy, and Air Force. Educational Accounts: In October 1993, 521 people had ROOTS-L subscriptions ending in .EDU, indicating an academic institution in the U.S. This includes most of the freenet accounts, but does not include most accounts in Canada, the U.K., Australia, etc., most of which (among ROOTS-L subscibers) also appear to be academic accounts. The account holders are a mix of teachers, students, and freenet users. Business Accounts: A lot of businesses (usually high-tech) are connected to the Internet, and some of their employees have e-mail boxes. It's a little tricky to determine how many use their employee mailboxes for personal genealogy, but it appeared that in October 1993 at least 2-3 dozen subscribers to ROOTS-L did so with business accounts. In addition, many businesses allow their employees to read Usenet news without personally subscribing to mailing lists. Local BBS's: (I'm just cracking open the lid on this jar of worms, not actually opening it and pouring them out.) The number of boards seems to continue to grow, as do the number of genealogy conferences, and the number of boards carrying those conferences. There are several networks carrying at least one general-purpose genealogy topic, and several special-interest genealogy topics. BBS's usually offer both local (to the BBS) e-mail and "echomail", or mail that is broadcast to the entire net (similar to ROOTS-L). Some networks also allow person-to-person e-mail. Prices range from free to $15/month. Some local BBS's also offer direct Internet access, with a unique mailbox, usually via UUCP or other dial-up Internet access. In some cases, BBS's grow large enough to be considered commercial services themselves (for example, the Well, the World, Canada Remote Systems, etc.). Again, it's not easy to determine which subscribers connect directly to ROOTS-L via a BBS, but at least 6 did so as of October 1993. Multiple Use: There is a number of people (big number? small number? prime number?) who use several services, and have multiple mailboxes. For example, Karen Isaacson does a great amount of good on GEnie and elsewhere (thanx Karen!), but uses her MCI Mail account for her ROOTS-L subscription. I have both GEnie and freenet accounts, but use AT&T Mail for subscriptions. I received notes from people who used as many as a half-dozen services, pointing out the good and bad for each. However, the consesus seems to be that for one-stop ancestor shopping (if they had to be limited to one), ROOTS-L was the best choice. But only one person was willing to voluntarily forget the rest and stay exclusively with the one list (although several expressed their dismay at having to do so, due to lack of personal time). Suggested Sources: PDIAL and NIXPUB. Two files available via anonymous ftp (and even via e-mail) from a variety of machines on the Internet. Updated periodically, these include contact information for publicly-accessible computer systems (commercial services and Unix BBS's) offering some sort of Internet access. _Dvorak's Guide to PC Telecommunications_. John C. Dvorak and Nick Anis. Osborne McGraw-Hill, New York. _The Whole Internet User's Guide and Catalog_. Ed Krol. O'Reilly & Associates, Sebastapol, CA. _Boardwatch Magazine_. [Monthly] 8500 W. Bowles Ave., Suite 210, Littleton, CO 80123. I'm always open to any additional comments and observations you wish to make, either about services already in this file, or about others that need to be added to it. Please do so privately to avoid clogging up the ROOTS-L list. Jay Hall, Everton Publishers | 165 South West Temple jayhall@attmail.com | Salt Lake City, UT 84101