ROOTSWEB REVIEW: RootsWeb's Genealogy News Vol. 3, No. 36, 6 September 2000, Circulation: 671,241+ (c) 1998-2000 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ ROOTSWEB REVIEW and MISSING LINKS are free, weekly e-zines. Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG RWR-Editors@rootsweb.com Advertising: sbrenay@myfamilyinc.com RootsWeb HelpDesk: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Ancestry.com: http://ancestry.com/help/support/main.htm Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ IN THIS ISSUE: o News and Notes at RootsWeb (New Searchable Databases; Who Has the Data?; New Mailing List Archives; RootsWeb at FGS; WorldConnect Tip; RAOGK; IBSSG; British Home Children; Shaking Your Family Tree; RWGuide to Tracing Family Trees) o Connecting through RootsWeb o New Genealogy Mailing Lists o New Genealogy Web Pages o GenConnect o USGenWeb Archives o Letters to the Editors o Humor o Reprint Policy; Back Issues; How to Subscribe or Unsubscribe RootsWeb's WORLDCONNECT contains more than 41.1 million names and new GEDCOMs are added daily. Search WorldConnect and upload your own GEDCOM(s) to http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB NEW SEARCHABLE DATABASES AT ROOTSWEB. RootsWeb thanks all of the individuals and groups who contribute their data to share with the genealogical community. See the full list of contributors at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/contributors.html CANADA, ONTARIO. Births 1869-1903, surnames BIRCH BIRTCH BURCH BURTCH and UNGER 4,254 records; Dave Johnson http://userdb.rootsweb.com/canada/ CANADA, ONTARIO. Marriages 1869-1918, surnames JOHNSON BIRCH BIRTCH BURCH BURTCH and UNGER 5,438 records; Dave Johnson http://userdb.rootsweb.com/canada/ CANADA, ONTARIO. Deaths 1869-1928, surname UNGER 66 records; Dave Johnson http://userdb.rootsweb.com/canada/ MASSACHUSETTS, DUKES COUNTY, Tisbury. 1790 Census 205 records; Chris Baer http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ MASSACHUSETTS, DUKES COUNTY. 1850 Census 4,541 records; Chris Baer http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ MASSACHUSETTS, DUKES COUNTY, Tisbury. 1865 Census 981 records; Chris Baer http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ MASSACHUSETTS, DUKES COUNTY, Tisbury. 1910 Census 1,198 records; Chris Baer http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ NEW HAMPSHIRE, GRAFTON COUNTY, Warren. 1800 Census 51 records; Karen Isaacson http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ NEW HAMPSHIRE, ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, Hampstead. 1800 Census 120 records; Karen Isaacson http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ NEW YORK, STEUBEN COUNTY, Troupsburg. 1855 State Census 1,972 records; George E. Sawyer http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ NEW YORK, WEBSTER COUNTY. Webster Union Cemetery 1,881 records; Melissa Bunion http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/ NEW YORK, WYOMING COUNTY. St. Vincent Cemetery 2,163 records; Leilani Spring http://userdb.rootsweb.com/cemeteries/ NORTH CAROLINA, 1850 Census Index, surname FITE 174 records; Pat DeArman Fite http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ PENNSYLVANIA, POTTER COUNTY. 1860 Census Index 4,047 records; Rose Matthews http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ PENNSYLVANIA, POTTER COUNTY, Pleasant Valley Twp. 1860 Census 164 records; Rose Matthews http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ TENNESSEE, HARDIN COUNTY, 13 Civil District. 1860 & 1870 Census 2,138 records; E. Adams http://userdb.rootsweb.com/census/index/ * * * WHO HAS THE DATA? Does your state, province, county, parish, or church have a database available that has not yet been placed on RootsWeb and that you think would be of interest to genealogists and historians? Do you have a database that you would like to share that you think would be of value and interest to others? In most cases, RootsWeb would be proud to host them. Please use the data submission form to tell us about such databases: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html * * * NEW MAILING LIST ARCHIVES. RootsWeb's "threaded" mail archives are getting a face lift. Over the next few weeks, our current threaded archives will become faster and easier to navigate. Thanks to mail system architect Tim Pierce, we have found new methods of protecting our mail archives from spammers that don't require a cumbersome password system. The new system will also make it easier to find your way around long discussion threads. Keep an eye on http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ to see what's in store. * * * FGS CONFERENCE IN SALT LAKE CITY, 6-9 September 2000. RootsWeb will be well represented at the Federation of Genealogical Societies annual conference in Salt Lake City. We look forward to seeing you at the RootsWeb booth. * * * WORLDCONNECT TIP: Selecting a User Code and Password Q. I am attempting to upload my GEDCOM to WorldConnect and have been unable to get past the first page. My selection of a user code and password are being rejected. Why? A. The most common causes are choosing a user code that contains something other than alphanumeric characters or includes blank spaces. Because your user code will become part of the URL (Web address) where your GEDCOM will be housed, it cannot contain anything other than alphanumeric characters, dashes, and underscores, which are acceptable to browsers. Use a dash "-" or an underscore "_" to represent spaces when establishing your user code. WorldConnect URLs (and user codes and passwords) are case-sensitive. If you want your user code to be "John Doe" you must create it as "John-Doe" or "John_Doe" Select a password that is no longer than 16 characters. In the unlikely event that the problem is not solved by following these instructions, it could mean that you have selected a user code that is already in use. Try selecting a slightly different user code. Every user code must be unique. More WorldConnect Tips http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/tips/ WorldConnect Suggestion Board and Help http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/gedcom/ RootsWeb's Guide to Tracing Family Trees: Using Technology to Dig up Roots http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson3.htm * * * RANDOM ACTS OF GENEALOGICAL KINDNESS (RAOGK). http://raogk.rootsweb.com/ RAOGK is a grassroots movement that consists of volunteers who agree that once per month they will do local legwork (such as take a photo of a tombstone at a specified location or obtain a record from the local county courthouse) for one person who requests a specific favor in their locality. In return, in addition to reimbursing the RAOGK volunteer for costs such as videotape, photocopies, or postage, RAOGK asks that the person who received the benefit of the favor in turn volunteer to perform a similar act of genealogical kindness for someone who needs a favor in the locality where s/he resides. Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness was started by researchers at one small Web site, but it has grown rapidly into an international movement. Read all about it and sign up as a volunteer if you can at http://raogk.rootsweb.com/ * * * INTERNATIONAL BLACK SHEEP SOCIETY OF GENEALOGISTS (IBSSG). http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Every Blacksheep is eventually shorn (but they are seldom the first to be fleeced). Except for a few copies retained for archive purposes, IBSSG's bestseller, SHADES OF GREY: FAMILY BLACKSHEEP, is sold out. But never fear, the ever-enterprising flockmaster could not bear to disappoint even those ewes that waited too long, therefore SHADES OF GREY is now available in its entirety (and free) on IBSSG's Web page at http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/title.htm * * * BRITISH HOME CHILDREN: Web Page, Mailing List, and a New Book. 100,000 British Home Children were sent to Canada by more than 50 British child care organizations circa 1870-1940. These four- to 15-year-old children were deported to work as indentured farm laborers until they reached age 18. Allegedly, some were sent to Canada without parental knowledge or consent. There are an estimated four million descendants of these children alive today, one of whom, Canadian psychologist Perry Snow, developed http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~britishhomechildren/ that now has the names listed of 3,000+ British Home Children. He also started a mailing list that now has 300+ international subscribers, who help each other with their searches. You can subscribe to the mailing list by sending an e-mail that says only "subscribe" to: BRITISHHOMECHILDREN-L-request@rootsweb.com NEITHER WAIF NOR STRAY: The Search for a Stolen Identity, by Perry Snow, ISBN 1-58112-758-8, is published on demand on the Internet. Snow writes: "My father became a ward of the Church of England Waifs and Strays Society when he was four years old in 1913. When he was 15, they gave him the choice of immigrating to Australia or Canada. No one wanted him in England. They sent him to work on Canadian farms as an indentured farm labourer." A free sample download of the first 25 pages is available at http://www.upublish.com/books/snow.htm Further information about the book and the author is available at http://www.cadvision.com/psnow.waifnorstray.htm * * * SHAKING YOUR FAMILY TREE (SYFT). Is your research a victim of those scoundrels "Sneaky H" and "Shifty R"? Find out how they can prevent you from finding your ancestors. http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/syft/curcolumn.htm Myra Vanderpool Gormley's Los Angeles Times Syndicate SYFT columns are archived by subject and can be browsed at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/syft/ * * * ROOTSWEB'S GUIDE TO TRACING FAMILY TREES (RWGuide) http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/ Many of our ancestors joined fraternal orders or organizations- associations of people bound together for philosophical, religious, literary, social, athletic, or philanthropic purposes. They were called friendly societies in Great Britain. A large number of these organizations are still in existence today and might have information about your elusive ancestors. 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Burdan bjburdan@ptd.net A post on RootsWeb's PABERKS-L mailing list led me to a Civil War site that I visited on 31 August 2000. The site yielded the name of not one but two of my ancestors. The first, John O. BURDAN, was known to be a member of the unit Durell's Independent Artillery. While at the site I discovered that his missing brother, Samuel O. BURDAN, was also a member. We knew there was a son Samuel from the 1850 census, where he was listed as age 10, but he had completely disappeared and we had no idea where he had gone. The Civil War site also noted that Samuel O. BURDAN had died of typhoid fever in Memphis, Tennessee. Knowing he wasn't brought back to Pennsylvania for burial, I speculated he might be buried somewhere in Tennessee. With the help of a Tennessee site at RootsWeb, I learned that Memphis is in Shelby County. Once at the Shelby County site, I posted a query and checked the cemeteries in the Shelby County, Tennessee archives at RootsWeb. Not having found Samuel O. BURDAN in the cemeteries listed, I e-mailed the RootsWeb volunteers who had submitted the cemetery files asking for addresses of the cemeteries to write to. By mid-day I had many responses to my queries and e-mails, all from RootsWeb folks. Less than 24 hours after I discovered Samuel O. BURDAN's fate, a very helpful Shelby County gentleman and RootsWeb volunteer e-mailed me with not the address of the cemetery, but the exact location of Samuel O. BURDAN's burial site, down to a description of the stone and what was inscribed on it. So, thanks to RootsWeb and all the many kind volunteers, we have put a valuable piece of the puzzle into our family tree. In less than 24 hours we took it from one census record to complete disclosure of the life of Samuel O. BURDAN and laid him peacefully to rest as a casualty of the Civil War. It would not have been possible without RootsWeb. * * * THE OLD VELVET FAMILY ALBUM by Laurel Auchampaugh chipauch@baldcom.net It took the combined efforts of descendants of Elizabeth LYONS MARSHALL in Toronto, Canada, and of Susan LYONS WALKER in Auburn, New York, to piece together a family puzzle of many old photographs in a velvet family album. A series of pictures taken by several photographers in Toronto (circa 1890s) was found in the LYONS-WALKER family album brought to New York from Florida by Susan L. Walker's great- granddaughter. It was one of three identical books given to Susan's three grandsons, who lived in Auburn, New York at one time. The 10"x12" books were in different velvet covers and contained many portraits that were a mystery. The Toronto pictures were the hardest to trace. There were family group shots, taken in different studios with ornate backgrounds and props. Not one had information on the people in the pictures. One unusual photo was taken on a picnic with two teenaged girls and their two debonair dates. One young man posed lengthwise on the ground, his bowler hat resting in his hand. The other leaned on a tree, while the girls looked serenely on. After an initial query on a RootsWeb page in Canada for a LYONS family researcher, and possible relatives of Susan LYONS, I received a reply from a Mr. Marshall in Canada. He had been working on his family tree, and was missing the information on Susan LYONS, his great-grandmother's oldest sister, who married and left Toronto, Canada for the United States in the late 1850s. Charts and information were shared. The pictures in the Old Velvet Album were copied and sent to Canada. Elizabeth LYONS MARSHALL's descendant was able to trace the photographs taken on Yonge Street in Toronto by researching the city directories for the three studio names imprinted on the bottom of the pictures. By this method he was able to determine the time frame in which they were taken. Mr. Marshall researched books on period dress, to find one book had a picture taken in the same studio with the same props shown in the LYONS album! Mr. Marshall, on the trail for sure, then paid a visit to an elderly cousin and found to his amazement that he had the same picnic picture. The mystery was solved. The girls were found to be the younger sisters of Susan LYONS. By comparing notes on both families we were able then to identify the WALKER group pictures in New York State, and the mystery MARSHALL group pictures in Toronto. We pinpointed the dates the pictures were taken to be in the 1890s. Soon other facts surfaced. Susan LYONS WALKER died in childbirth in 1872. She must have missed her family in Toronto for every one of her daughters was named after one of her sisters. She named her first child Elizabeth. It was this Elizabeth, at age 16, who took over the care of her six younger brothers and sisters. She also kept up a correspondence with her "Aunt" Elizabeth LYONS MARSHALL in Canada after her mother's death. Isaac WALKER died in 1894, and the family must have felt the pull of preserving family ties. We believe it was at this time the photo albums were begun. Pictures were exchanged from both families and countries -- a wedding, a WALKER family group in mourning clothes, and the quaint picnic picture that was the clue to identifying the family. We had found our family and each other after 105 years, thanks to the old velvet family album. * * * * * MAILING LISTS. For an index to most genealogy mailing lists hosted by RootsWeb, visit http://lists.rootsweb.com/ NEW MAILING LIST REQUESTS. Please request new mailing lists at http://resources.rootsweb.com/adopt/ TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBSCRIBE from any RootsWeb-hosted mailing list, send an e-mail message with only the word SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the subject and the body of the message to [name of list]-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) or to [name of list]-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode). FOR EXAMPLE, if you are researching ancestors who were miners in Scotland during the 18th, 19th, or 20th centuries, send a SUBSCRIBE request to: SCOTTISH-MINING-L-request@rootsweb.com NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS, GENCONNECT BOARDS, AND CLUSTERS Aebersold, Amphlett, Appino Barlett, Berlett, Breadon, Bryant-Indian Childres-Research, Clapham, Coriale Dorweiler Followell Griebling Hafften, Hartness, Hasenack, Hurlbutt Kerlin Mardell, Masonhall, McClenny, Mulcaster, Murie Nipple Reinders, Rozell Schambach, Steinebach, Swecker Vibbert, Videau, Viefhaus Zenz NEW REGIONAL MAILING LISTS AUSTRALIA AUS-NSW-SURNAMES -- Surnames only in NSW, Australia AUS-VIC-LATROBE -- Latrobe Valley, Victoria, Australia AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT -- Family and local history research and queries in the Western Districts of Victoria, Australia CANADA QUEBEC-BEAUHUNTCHAT -- Beauharnois, Huntingdon, and Chateauguay counties of Quebec SCOTLAND SCT-PEEBLES-SHIRE - Peeblesshire, Scotland, Great Britain SWITZERLAND CHE-TICINO - Ticino, the Italian-speaking canton U.S.A. ALBIBB-CHAT AZ-CEMETERIES DE-CEMETERIES IA-CEMETERIES IL-CEMETERIES MO-CEMETERIES OH-CEMETERIES OK-RECORDS -- discussion of all types of Oklahoma genealogical records PA-CEMETERIES PA-DEL-CHESTER -- Chester, Delaware Co., Pennsylvania PA-DEL-WOODLYN -- Woodlyn, Delaware Co., Pennsylvania PA-OLD-CHESTER -- The original Chester County, Pennsylvania, which includes parts of other modern counties in Pennsylvania and Maryland ETHNIC AND SPECIAL INTEREST MAILING LISTS SCOTTISH-MINING -- Researching mining ancestors who worked in Scottish mines in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries SWKY-NWTN -- For queries only about counties in southwest Kentucky and northwest Tennessee * * * * * NEW WEB ACCOUNT REQUESTS. Please see the instructions at http://accounts.rootsweb.com/ NEW WEB SITES. Some of these might not yet be accessible. If one that interests you isn't up yet, please check again in a few days or a week. http://www.rootsweb.com/~[account name]. Note that the ~[tilde] before the account name is required. FOR EXAMPLE, to visit the Web page for Evans County, Georgia, go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaevans/ CANADA onrenfre -- Renfrew, Ontario RUSSIA and CHINA rusharbi -- Harbiners. Many refugees from Russia lived in Harbin, China, before immigrating to other countries. Now, 60 to 80 years later, families are trying to reestablish contact and research their roots. U.S.A. aldale -- Dale County, Alabama gaevans -- Evans County, Georgia tndekalb -- DeKalb County, Tennessee idbenewa -- Benewah County, Idaho idlatah -- Latah County, Idaho macessex -- Essex, Massachusetts (city) miionia -- Ionia County, Michigan mnspfhc -- St. Paul Family History Center (Minnesota) nmluna -- Luna County, New Mexico sdbutte -- Butte County, South Dakota txmfgdar -- Major Francis Grice Chapter, National Society Daughters of the American Revolution vabrcdar -- Frances Bland Randolph Chapter, National Society Daughters of the American Revolution SOME NEW HOMEPAGES AND FREEPAGES DAR. Steubenville (Ohio) Chapter, Daughters of the American Revolution provides its chapter history, calendar of events, ancestors, as well as FAQ to help you join DAR. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~steubdar/ FURR. Surname Resource Center provides surname history, GEDCOM files, sources, researcher links, and other information. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~furr/ HOPPES GENERATIONS. HOPPES/HOPPIS/HOPPAS/HOPPUS/HOPPERS http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hoppes/ REED-STAPLETON Family Genealogy. Families from Eastern Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, and North Carolina, including BAYES, CAUDILL, DANIEL,EALEY, McCOY, McKENZIE, AND WILEY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~regen/ SODEN. Worldwide information on the surname SODEN. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~soden/ STEWART. Plus related family lines, including SMITH and WRIGHT. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dcstewart/ U. S. CIVIL WAR. Civil War Project network of independent sites linked together by state. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~pdyess/ahgpcw.htm VIRGINIA. Virginia Tax Lists 1790/1800 County Tax Lists. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm WAINWRIGHTs. Family trees, descendants and documentation of this Penistone Parish (Yorkshire, England) family. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wewain/Wainwright/ * * * * * GENCONNECT. RootsWeb hosts many surname GenConnect boards that are in need of people to maintain them. o For a complete list of adoptable GenConnect surname boards http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptable/ o For the form to request to adopt a GenConnect surname board (the same form is used for surname mailing list requests) http://resources.rootsweb.com/adopt/ * * * * * USGENWEB ARCHIVES -- THE ARCHIVES NEWSLETTER contains the current USGenWeb Archives submissions from the last week. Back issues of THE ARCHIVES NEWSLETTER are archived at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/newsletter/ 4 September 2000 issue http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/newsletter/2000/sept/sept4.htm USGW-ARCHIVES-ANNOUNCE-L is a read-only mailing list for weekly announcements of new updates and submissions to the USGenWeb Archives. To subscribe, send e-mail that says only SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message to this address: usgw-archives-announce-l-request@rootsweb.com Have you found a genealogical treasure, such as a photo album or an old Bible containing a completed family record page, that you would like to see reunited with its family? If so, in addition to submitting a notice for publication in the "Somebody's Links" section of MISSING LINKS or in the SOMEBODY'S LINKS NEWSLETTER (to subscribe send an e-mail that says only SUBSCRIBE to: Somebodys-Links-Newsletter-L-request@rootsweb.com ), you can read and post notices to the SOMEBODY'S LINKS message board at http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/SomebodysLinks/ * * * * * LETTERS TO THE EDITORS. Please send as plain text e-mail messages (no attachments or html) to RWR-Editors@rootsweb.com Recently, I was searching through a section at RootsWeb on unclaimed marriage certificates and came across the listing of my paternal grandparents, Jesse L. PEMBERTON and Laura HELMS, who were married in 1904, as not having ever picked up their marriage license here in Young County, Texas after its recording at the local courthouse. I was astounded and really had trouble believing this as fact. Well, let me tell you, I was up bright and early the next morning and at the courthouse when it opened. After telling them what I had found, they searched the archives and, sure enough, there was my grandparents' marriage license. I left the courthouse beaming, for in my possession was the 96- year-old marriage license in mint condition, and it is now awaiting a beautiful frame and a place of honor in my home. Thank you, RootsWeb. Had it not been for you this priceless family heirloom might have been lost to the family forever. Sherry Pemberton Sheets sallyp@brazosnet.com I am another one who cannot thank you enough for the California and Texas data on births, deaths, etc. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/birth/search.cgi http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi http://userdb.rootsweb.com/tx/birth/general/search.cgi (1926-49) I have learned more of my family than I dreamed possible, and words cannot express my gratitude. Rosalie Wszolek jfw-erw@sonetcom.com I also would like to thank you for the information on Ancestry.com. I have now found out a lot more about my great- grandfather than I ever hoped possible. Thank you also for the California Death Index in which I was able to help my mother find information. It gets a bit hard to look for ancestors who lived in America, Canada, and England when living in Australia, but RootsWeb has been a great help. Thanks again. Sandra Thompson d_thompson@picknowl.com.au Just a note to thank RootsWeb. I have been researching my family tree since it was a high school project in the early 1970s. I had found that my great-grandfather, Robert GRIEVE, was born in Dumbarton, Scotland, and I knew he married and died in NSW, Australia, but I could not find any record of the death of his parents. I recently joined the GRIEVE-L@rootsweb.com mailing list and through it was able to contact a very distant relative in New Zealand. To cut a long story short, it appears that Robert GRIEVE's parents, John GRIEVE and Margaret KEY, migrated to New Zealand with the majority of their children. One older sister had married and stayed in Scotland. I think my great- grandfather may have been working on ships at the time his family migrated. I still have some research to do and mysteries to solve. John GRIEVE chr. 6 January 1823 was the eldest son of Robert GRIEVE and Agnes McFARLANE who lived in the area of Perth, Aberfoyle; Luss and Row Dunbarton, Scotland. Kerrie Farleigh farlee1@eisa.net.au * * * * * HUMOR. According to World Wide Words: Exploring the English Language at http://www.quinion.com/ Screen sickness: Also known as the cyber shakes, it's that feeling of pounding head, weeping eyes and aching wrists that some Internet-obsessed people get after another hard day's cyber-surfing. * * * * * PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given]. Previously published by RootsWeb.com, Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 3, No. 36, 6 September 2000. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ BACK ISSUES OF ROOTSWEB REVIEW and MISSING LINKS are fully SEARCHABLE. 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